New Medicaid rules will slash benefits to the cognitively impaired, seriously ill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

You know absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing on how this works because you live a life sheltered from any one who is developmentally disabled, medically fragile, etc. My parents would have been BEYOND thrilled if someone would have hired their DC with a developmental disability for 80 hours month - but that doesn't happen regardless of how many feel good reels run on social media.

And Medicaid doesn't pay a "proceed" - it helps the individual receive health care, often for what are very complex conditions. The fraud in Medicaid is perpetrated by insurers and providers.

So your disabled sibling is now an adult on Medicaid and not their insurances or trusts, and doesn’t have 1 of those criteria to get care? And is completely unable to work in any of those handicapped programs?

Yes it is a heavy lift to raise a handicapped or special needs child and adult- for parents or the government, or both. It’s beyond life altering for everyone who chooses to be involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysteria at its worst.

Clearly you have no one in your life that would be affected and an inability to care about those it will affect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

Agree.

I shudder to think what it was before, just sign up and give them your direct deposit amount where to send the monthly cheque?

For our family, it was 3 months waiting for an appointment to apply, an in person interview. about 100 pages of documents and medical testing from doctors, IEPs from the school district, more forms detailing how he functions day to day, and a full battery of IQ and psychological tests. Then another 5 months waiting for a decision.

So no, you don't just sign up and get monthly "cheques," you foreign bot.

So your family’s patient goes to regular public school daily?

Not any more. But because the person has been disabled from birth, they wanted school records.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To me, some version of a Medicaid work requirement seems like what you expect to get when Republicans are in office.

It’s not great, but it’s a minor nuisance compared with destroying NATO or possibly just canceling the general elections.

The problem is with how this might be administered.

If the administration were OK, there’s plenty of room here for officials to make allowances for people with intellectual disabilities or people with cancer.

And maybe you could argue that most people with intellectual disabilities want to be “engaged in the community.” If this law forced communities to expand work and volunteer programs for people with intellectual disabilities, that would be good.

If the current rules are too hard on people with sometimes of health concerns, good regulators could fix those rules.

The problem is, obviously, the difficulty of believing that the Trump administration will administer a program in a good way.

That force is NOT going to happen. DY reread that and understand how ridiculous it sounds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

Agree.

I shudder to think what it was before, just sign up and give them your direct deposit amount where to send the monthly cheque?

For our family, it was 3 months waiting for an appointment to apply, an in person interview. about 100 pages of documents and medical testing from doctors, IEPs from the school district, more forms detailing how he functions day to day, and a full battery of IQ and psychological tests. Then another 5 months waiting for a decision.

So no, you don't just sign up and get monthly "cheques," you foreign bot.

Seriously. I know MAGAs are dim but even most of them understand how Medicaid works. A lot of these comments seem to be from people who don’t even live in the US. Best not to engage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

You know absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing on how this works because you live a life sheltered from any one who is developmentally disabled, medically fragile, etc. My parents would have been BEYOND thrilled if someone would have hired their DC with a developmental disability for 80 hours month - but that doesn't happen regardless of how many feel good reels run on social media.

And Medicaid doesn't pay a "proceed" - it helps the individual receive health care, often for what are very complex conditions. The fraud in Medicaid is perpetrated by insurers and providers.

So your disabled sibling is now an adult on Medicaid and not their insurances or trusts, and doesn’t have 1 of those criteria to get care? And is completely unable to work in any of those handicapped programs?

Yes it is a heavy lift to raise a handicapped or special needs child and adult- for parents or the government, or both. It’s beyond life altering for everyone who chooses to be involved.

Different poster here, but why are you being so obtuse?

Adult kids can't be on their parents health insurance past age 26. Hence the need for Medicaid, which is HEALTHCARE for the poor.

Trusts require money, and many families with disability kids have only been able to have 1 working parent because the other had to get the disabled person to the zillions of appointments. They don't have money lying around.

The people I know who have Special Needs trusts will only have money to put into them once they have died, from life insurance proceeds and the sale of a home.

And handicapped programs? Are you kidding me? They are few and far between for adults. And they cost money to run. And Trump's Big Beautiful Bill slashes money for those as well.

[Anonymous]

Does USA have more mentally handicapped or physically handicapped or genetically handicapped than other countries’ percentages?
What do other countries do, if anything, for the families or the handicapped individual?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysteria at its worst.

Clearly you have no one in your life that would be affected and an inability to care about those it will affect.

NP. I m facing a life debilitating disease in my late 50s. It would be selfish for me to take drugs to extend my life or anyone else’s. None of us are that special is that special nor should we submit to being human Guinea pigs. We live, we die. Give the money to the under 40s, grandpa. I’m sure either Trump or Dems will come to the same conclusion soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysteria at its worst.

Clearly you have no one in your life that would be affected and an inability to care about those it will affect.

NP. I m facing a life debilitating disease in my late 50s. It would be selfish for me to take drugs to extend my life or anyone else’s. None of us are that special is that special nor should we submit to being human Guinea pigs. We live, we die. Give the money to the under 40s, grandpa. I’m sure either Trump or Dems will come to the same conclusion soon.

Adding when MAGA does it, it will be cruel. When the Dems do it, it will be compassionate like in Belgium.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysteria at its worst.

Clearly you have no one in your life that would be affected and an inability to care about those it will affect.

NP. I m facing a life debilitating disease in my late 50s. It would be selfish for me to take drugs to extend my life or anyone else’s. None of us are that special is that special nor should we submit to being human Guinea pigs. We live, we die. Give the money to the under 40s, grandpa. I’m sure either Trump or Dems will come to the same conclusion soon.

No, those of us with disabled family members are not going to advocate for their death. Are you out of your mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysteria at its worst.

Clearly you have no one in your life that would be affected and an inability to care about those it will affect.

NP. I m facing a life debilitating disease in my late 50s. It would be selfish for me to take drugs to extend my life or anyone else’s. None of us are that special is that special nor should we submit to being human Guinea pigs. We live, we die. Give the money to the under 40s, grandpa. I’m sure either Trump or Dems will come to the same conclusion soon.

No, those of us with disabled family members are not going to advocate for their death. Are you out of your mind?

No, are you? Once I cannot bathe or go to the toilet on my own and require costly drugs to live, it is past time for me to go. Living like that is worse than if I had been an unwanted pregnancy. I am no longer viable outside the womb.

MIf you are a liberal/progressive but do not support pinching off dead leaves, yet support a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy up until birth, you are a hypocrite. We cannot pay for all the other social programs unless we are all in this together.

[Anonymous]

Fact: There ae people who need Medicaid.
Fact: There is tons of fraud in Medicaid.

I personally know two people who found fraud on their accounts. Both reported it and it appears action was taken.

One was fraud on Medicare.. The other was fraud for a disabled sibling on Medicaid.

Both people were legitimately covered and, in the Medicare case, it was fraud on fake prescriptions for medical equipment.
Family member has prosecuted these kinds of cases--apparently medical equipment is one of the biggest sources of fraud. One of his cases was a small town where many people had those portable oxygen machines. The doctor prescribed them for many of his patients who--apparently--did not need them. Those machines are on a subscription basis so the fraud goes on forever.


I am a senior citizen. It is amazing how many calls we get offering us "free stuff" that Medicare will pay for. Stuff we don't need or want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fact: There ae people who need Medicaid.
Fact: There is tons of fraud in Medicaid.

I personally know two people who found fraud on their accounts. Both reported it and it appears action was taken.

One was fraud on Medicare.. The other was fraud for a disabled sibling on Medicaid.

Both people were legitimately covered and, in the Medicare case, it was fraud on fake prescriptions for medical equipment.
Family member has prosecuted these kinds of cases--apparently medical equipment is one of the biggest sources of fraud. One of his cases was a small town where many people had those portable oxygen machines. The doctor prescribed them for many of his patients who--apparently--did not need them. Those machines are on a subscription basis so the fraud goes on forever.


I am a senior citizen. It is amazing how many calls we get offering us "free stuff" that Medicare will pay for. Stuff we don't need or want.

But why does anyone NEED this stuff at all? How much are we spending to combat fraud? How much is that increasing our bills. Why give the fraudsters anything to exploit? Why give it to the drug companies that give us a false premise of living longer? Unless they can stop the aging process, the problem is futile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does USA have more mentally handicapped or physically handicapped or genetically handicapped than other countries’ percentages?
What do other countries do, if anything, for the families or the handicapped individual?

Other countries have universal healthcare. Everyone in the society gets free healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fact: There ae people who need Medicaid.
Fact: There is tons of fraud in Medicaid.

I personally know two people who found fraud on their accounts. Both reported it and it appears action was taken.

One was fraud on Medicare.. The other was fraud for a disabled sibling on Medicaid.

Both people were legitimately covered and, in the Medicare case, it was fraud on fake prescriptions for medical equipment.
Family member has prosecuted these kinds of cases--apparently medical equipment is one of the biggest sources of fraud. One of his cases was a small town where many people had those portable oxygen machines. The doctor prescribed them for many of his patients who--apparently--did not need them. Those machines are on a subscription basis so the fraud goes on forever.


I am a senior citizen. It is amazing how many calls we get offering us "free stuff" that Medicare will pay for. Stuff we don't need or want.

But why does anyone NEED this stuff at all? How much are we spending to combat fraud? How much is that increasing our bills. Why give the fraudsters anything to exploit? Why give it to the drug companies that give us a false premise of living longer? Unless they can stop the aging process, the problem is futile.

NP. Are you asking why people need durable medical equipment such as portable oxygen, cpap machines, or wheelchairs? Breathing and mobility can be impacted by a variety of illnesses for quite some time before people die from their conditions. People who honestly qualify for coverage and legitimately need the things that they are prescribed in order to maintain their health and quality of life would have few options without their medicare/medicaid coverage. What alternative do you propose for them?