New Medicaid rules will slash benefits to the cognitively impaired, seriously ill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think Trump would have more sympathy for the cognitively impaired

Trump has a grand nephew, the son of the son of his deceased (alcoholic) pilot brother Fred, who is cognitively impaired and fairly profoundly disabled physically as well.

At some point in the recent past, after hosting his nephew and other disability advocates in the White House, he remarked to his nephew that maybe it would just be better altogether to let such people die.

He also on another occasion suggested to his nephew that he should just let his disabled son die so the nephew could move to Florida and play a lot of golf.

Yep. It's astonishing to me this thread isn't longer. People should be outraged.

They will have ICE rounding up the sick and disabled next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look I hate Trump, but I do see mental impairment is included.

Not in the rules released today. Medically fragile only.

"Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look I hate Trump, but I do see mental impairment is included.

It reads just fine.

Clearly there’s a bunch of loonies on here who cannot read and are overly dramatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look I hate Trump, but I do see mental impairment is included.

It reads just fine.

Clearly there’s a bunch of loonies on here who cannot read and are overly dramatic.

The point is, it is yet another obstacle put in place to limit the number of people who qualify. States will get fined if they accidentally offer Medicaid to someone who doesn’t fit the government’s definition, so they will err on the side of caution and end up denying people who probably really should qualify. They have already done that for SNAP applicants.


https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/30/snap-food-stamps-big-beautiful-bill.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

You know absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing on how this works because you live a life sheltered from any one who is developmentally disabled, medically fragile, etc. My parents would have been BEYOND thrilled if someone would have hired their DC with a developmental disability for 80 hours month - but that doesn't happen regardless of how many feel good reels run on social media.

And Medicaid doesn't pay a "proceed" - it helps the individual receive health care, often for what are very complex conditions. The fraud in Medicaid is perpetrated by insurers and providers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think Trump would have more sympathy for the cognitively impaired

Trump has a grand nephew, the son of the son of his deceased (alcoholic) pilot brother Fred, who is cognitively impaired and fairly profoundly disabled physically as well.

At some point in the recent past, after hosting his nephew and other disability advocates in the White House, he remarked to his nephew that maybe it would just be better altogether to let such people die.

He also on another occasion suggested to his nephew that he should just let his disabled son die so the nephew could move to Florida and play a lot of golf.

Yep. It's astonishing to me this thread isn't longer. People should be outraged.

They will have ICE rounding up the sick and disabled next.

Sick and disabled illegals never should have been allowed to stay and leach into another countries medical and welfare systems, just for showing up illegally.

It's leech, but I've given up on expecting some posters here to have a threshold level of education as well as understand how much MAGA is leeching off taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think Trump would have more sympathy for the cognitively impaired

Trump has a grand nephew, the son of the son of his deceased (alcoholic) pilot brother Fred, who is cognitively impaired and fairly profoundly disabled physically as well.

At some point in the recent past, after hosting his nephew and other disability advocates in the White House, he remarked to his nephew that maybe it would just be better altogether to let such people die.

He also on another occasion suggested to his nephew that he should just let his disabled son die so the nephew could move to Florida and play a lot of golf.

Yep. It's astonishing to me this thread isn't longer. People should be outraged.

They will have ICE rounding up the sick and disabled next.

Sick and disabled illegals never should have been allowed to stay and leach into another countries medical and welfare systems, just for showing up illegally.

Way to miss the point.

There are no illegals getting these benefits.

The Trumpers will just use their ICE goons to slaughter disabled US citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious to see if the war in Iran will cost us as much as the entire Medicaid budget of about $900bn this year.

Just interest on the national debt is a trillion a year.

The entire defense budget is around $930 billion a year. Where are you getting the idea that Iran is $900 billiion over and above this year?

I guess that medicaid expansion is tipping the scales to service those 10-15 million illegal aliens?

You think money grows on trees? Not anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think Trump would have more sympathy for the cognitively impaired

Trump has a grand nephew, the son of the son of his deceased (alcoholic) pilot brother Fred, who is cognitively impaired and fairly profoundly disabled physically as well.

At some point in the recent past, after hosting his nephew and other disability advocates in the White House, he remarked to his nephew that maybe it would just be better altogether to let such people die.

He also on another occasion suggested to his nephew that he should just let his disabled son die so the nephew could move to Florida and play a lot of golf.

Yep. It's astonishing to me this thread isn't longer. People should be outraged.

They will have ICE rounding up the sick and disabled next.

Sick and disabled illegals never should have been allowed to stay and leach into another countries medical and welfare systems, just for showing up illegally.

Way to miss the point.

There are no illegals getting these benefits.

The Trumpers will just use their ICE goons to slaughter disabled US citizens.

Wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

You know absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing on how this works because you live a life sheltered from any one who is developmentally disabled, medically fragile, etc. My parents would have been BEYOND thrilled if someone would have hired their DC with a developmental disability for 80 hours month - but that doesn't happen regardless of how many feel good reels run on social media.

And Medicaid doesn't pay a "proceed" - it helps the individual receive health care, often for what are very complex conditions. The fraud in Medicaid is perpetrated by insurers and providers.

Right. Most intellectually disabled are not medically frail.

But many/most of them can't
--drive
--handle bank accounts
--cook
--handle phone calls
--call or find doctors
--do complicated math
--read or comprehend much language beyond elementary school

The vast majority of the mentally disabled people in this country are unemployed. Who is going to hire them?

Hence the need for Medicaid, which provides access to doctors and medical care.

No decent American is against providing the disabled with health care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious to see if the war in Iran will cost us as much as the entire Medicaid budget of about $900bn this year.

Just interest on the national debt is a trillion a year.

The entire defense budget is around $930 billion a year. Where are you getting the idea that Iran is $900 billiion over and above this year?

I guess that medicaid expansion is tipping the scales to service those 10-15 million illegal aliens?

You think money grows on trees? Not anymore.

It sure does for our enemy president Trump, who is ransacking the treasury with abandon.

He doesn't gave a hot damn about the deficit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look I hate Trump, but I do see mental impairment is included.

Not in the rules released today. Medically fragile only.

"Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition."

That is not how the disability community us reading the requirements.

[Anonymous]

To me, some version of a Medicaid work requirement seems like what you expect to get when Republicans are in office.

It’s not great, but it’s a minor nuisance compared with destroying NATO or possibly just canceling the general elections.

The problem is with how this might be administered.

If the administration were OK, there’s plenty of room here for officials to make allowances for people with intellectual disabilities or people with cancer.

And maybe you could argue that most people with intellectual disabilities want to be “engaged in the community.” If this law forced communities to expand work and volunteer programs for people with intellectual disabilities, that would be good.

If the current rules are too hard on people with sometimes of health concerns, good regulators could fix those rules.

The problem is, obviously, the difficulty of believing that the Trump administration will administer a program in a good way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The evil Trump administration just announced rules that will gut Medicaid eligibility for the cognitively impaired, as well as many cancer patients.

All the Trump apologists on this board can STUFF IT.

The just-released rules say that if you can get in and out of a chair, use the toilet and take a bath on your own, you need to work 80 hours a month or no health care for you.

This totally ignores that fact that that the cognitively impaired don't typically drive and there's few transportation options.

And that fact that cancer patients going through treatment are sick as dogs a lot of the time won't be able to work.

Oh, and the fact that NOBODY HIRES THE SICK AND COGNTIVELY IMPAIRED!

And don't tell me it's not happening. The links are below.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/administrations-last-minute-restrictions-likely-to-worsen-impact-of-medicaid-work


https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2026/06/03/medicaid-changes-will-push-people-with-disabilities-off-program-advocates-warn/32025/

"The 387-page rule published Wednesday indicates that individuals with physical, intellectual or developmental disabilities will be considered “medically frail” only if their condition “significantly impairs” their ability to perform at least one activity of daily living, or ADL, which includes bathing, dressing, walking, toileting, eating or getting in and out of bed or a chair.

“An individual with such a disability that does not significantly impair their ability to perform one or more ADLs would not qualify for this exclusion,” the rule states.

Other categories that can qualify as “medically frail” include people who are “blind or disabled,” individuals with substance use disorder, a “disabling mental disorder” or a serious or complex medical condition.

To be considered “disabled,” a person would have to be “unable to engage in any substantial gainful activity by reason of any medically determinable physical or mental impairment which can be expected to result in death or which has lasted or can be expected to last for a continuous period of not less than twelve months.”


So you Trumpers can STFU about it only being "fraud" they are trying to get rid of.

They are trying to kill the sick and disabled.

That sounds like an incredibly easy bar to pass if you are actually handicapped or impaired. Only 1 of those?

Wtf was it before that clause? Jsut find a nurse or doc to sign something and split the welfare proceeds?

People like you- ie. lacking a brain and a soul- are the ones who deserve some serious misfortune.