What Schools are Considered 2T?

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Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.
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Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


Yep. Only 7 TTs
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


You are welcome to avoid any discussion of Regis. But for parents of Catholic boys (I am not one), it might be helpful to know more about the school and how it stacks up to some of the other schools they might be applying to (I'm guessing a fair number of Regis kids also apply to regular private schools). Perhaps another thread specific to that would be helpful. Or you can just skip those posts.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


You are welcome to avoid any discussion of Regis. But for parents of Catholic boys (I am not one), it might be helpful to know more about the school and how it stacks up to some of the other schools they might be applying to (I'm guessing a fair number of Regis kids also apply to regular private schools). Perhaps another thread specific to that would be helpful. Or you can just skip those posts.


2T then
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


I mean there are a lot more baptized Catholics in NYC than there are people who can afford to spend $70,000/year on private school.
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Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


TT is like the Ivy League. It is what it is. MIT is one of the most selective schools in the country, but it's not Ivy League

2T is super strong.

3T has gems.

4T I personally wouldnt pay for but many do
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


you can't apply to Collegiate unless you're a boy. most dont apply to any of these unless they have some money - we're not putting Stuy or Hunter in here. But anyway, the TT list was set a long time ago. Regis is 2T
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


you can't apply to Collegiate unless you're a boy. most dont apply to any of these unless they have some money - we're not putting Stuy or Hunter in here. But anyway, the TT list was set a long time ago. Regis is 2T


Regis is one of the premier high schools in the country. It’s ridiculous to say it’s anything but a top tier institution. Clearly these categories are about money and not institutional quality. Someone said that Nighingale and CSH were the only undisputed 2Ts. This sort of proves my point. They are both old money schools.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


If you keep repeating “There are 7 TT” enough maybe it will become true?


You must be new.


And you may be struck in UB times.

TT school definition is not equal to - say - Ivy League. It is a subjective classification used by parents familiar with the NYC private school scene. It may evolve over time. This thread illustrates that the line between 2T and 3T is already very blurry and that the statement “there are 7 TT schools” may also be up for debate.



Be our guest and argue there are more than 7, at least provide realistic additions like Riverdale or St Ann’s, and stop repeating Regis or Trevor or Grace to the end of times. They aren’t TT.


No one has argued Grace and Trevor are TT. I have not seen that anywhere. More that they are 2T and not 3T. Though one person here thinks Trevor is 8T because they have a childish vendetta against the school and like hijacking threads.

One can make a compelling argument for Regis as TT but I think it is generally accepted as 2T.


Regis is 2T. It has very niche appeal that works for some. It’s like comparing TT and Stuy, they’re completely different and you can make a case for either but shouldn’t be lumped together.


I tend to agree and I think that most people here agree as well. I think they are just saying there is an asterisk as there are likely plenty of kids turning down TT's for Regis (with cost factoring into that). To your point, same for Stuy and Bronx Science, but like you said, they also don't get lumped in.


Regis is not an apples to apples comparison to any other school. You can't even sit for the test if you're not baptized Catholic. It's in a category of its own and not worth arguing over what tier it's in.


you can't apply to Collegiate unless you're a boy. most dont apply to any of these unless they have some money - we're not putting Stuy or Hunter in here. But anyway, the TT list was set a long time ago. Regis is 2T


Regis is one of the premier high schools in the country. It’s ridiculous to say it’s anything but a top tier institution. Clearly these categories are about money and not institutional quality. Someone said that Nighingale and CSH were the only undisputed 2Ts. This sort of proves my point. They are both old money schools.


Whoever said that about Nightingale and csh was wrong. So their opinion is meaningless. Opinions are like buttholes - everyone’s got one
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Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


TT is like the Ivy League. It is what it is. MIT is one of the most selective schools in the country, but it's not Ivy League

2T is super strong.

3T has gems.

4T I personally wouldnt pay for but many do


Please name 2-3 4T schools as examples. Please name one 3T gem
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


TT is like the Ivy League. It is what it is. MIT is one of the most selective schools in the country, but it's not Ivy League

2T is super strong.

3T has gems.

4T I personally wouldnt pay for but many do


The Ivy League is a well known sports league and there is zero ambiguity about its composition.

The list of "TTs" is generally defined by NYC private school parents and college consultants. It's based on traditions and "vibes" and both traditions and vibes tend to change over time. The fact that so many people these days argue about Riverdale and St Ann's shows there is quite a bit of ambiguity and reasonable people may disagree on the terminology.
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Grace Church is a 3T and, as pointed out earlier, is gaining ground. Loyola is a gem for some kids.

I wouldn't pay for Notre Dame, LREI, BIS, Calhoun, Brooklyn Friends, York Steiner, or the Lycée among others .. not saying they're not good but I there are too many publics I'd prefer over these either academically or socially or both. There are plenty of publics I like a lot.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 7 TT schools.

Then there are schools that many people would consider highly selective that aren't on that list - think Regis and St Anns - those are 2T.



In no world is Regis a 2T. That is one of the most selective schools in the country.


TT is like the Ivy League. It is what it is. MIT is one of the most selective schools in the country, but it's not Ivy League

2T is super strong.

3T has gems.

4T I personally wouldnt pay for but many do


The Ivy League is a well known sports league and there is zero ambiguity about its composition.

The list of "TTs" is generally defined by NYC private school parents and college consultants. It's based on traditions and "vibes" and both traditions and vibes tend to change over time. The fact that so many people these days argue about Riverdale and St Ann's shows there is quite a bit of ambiguity and reasonable people may disagree on the terminology.


in my opinion, the era of UB solidified the TTs. and I trust those ladies as much as any sports league
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Anonymous wrote:Grace Church is a 3T and, as pointed out earlier, is gaining ground. Loyola is a gem for some kids.

I wouldn't pay for Notre Dame, LREI, BIS, Calhoun, Brooklyn Friends, York Steiner, or the Lycée among others .. not saying they're not good but I there are too many publics I'd prefer over these either academically or socially or both. There are plenty of publics I like a lot.


Discounting SHSAT schools, there are no guarantees for public high schools - you can be a superstar but if you get a bad lottery number within Tier 1, your options still aren't great. So you have to go somewhere.

Notre Dame is Catholic so a lot cheaper. So that is a wild card. Agree on the rest.

Grace is 2T now. I'm not dying on that sword, but I feel pretty strongly about it. I know a lot of people there, where they came from, what options they had. Culture has changed. Again - not a TT. Not even close. Not saying that. But it is 2T.
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