Vigil for man killed in Arlington 7-11 barricade standoff tonight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is we can absolutely do better at treating mental health and teaching deescalation during crises in this country. This doesn't have to be the only way. This isn't just for the person shot here, there's a real mental health cost to a killing someone, witnessing a death, having to process death scenes, etc.

It doesn't mean every situation can be avoided but that doesn't mean we don't ask questions and figure out if we can't do more to keep these situations from ever happening in the first place.

You don't like my solution. I want to lock up the severely mentally ill wandering our streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is we can absolutely do better at treating mental health and teaching deescalation during crises in this country. This doesn't have to be the only way. This isn't just for the person shot here, there's a real mental health cost to a killing someone, witnessing a death, having to process death scenes, etc.

It doesn't mean every situation can be avoided but that doesn't mean we don't ask questions and figure out if we can't do more to keep these situations from ever happening in the first place.

I really agree with this. The officers involved have had their lives changed forever because of this incident. This doesn't just affect the man who was shot. Some situations can't be avoided, but shooting someone should be the absolute last resort. It just doesn't sound like that was the case here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was barricaded in a 7-11 because he just previously attempted to kill an unarmed woman with a knife. So yes, the police were being cautious since he had previously just displayed murderous intent

They were reckless, not cautious.

Said a reactionary cop hater that has no idea about the intricacies of the 7-11 situation and even less knowledge about the deadly force continuum.

[Anonymous]

Conservatives are only pro-life wrt productive, non-homicidal folx. Bigots.

[Anonymous]

Do you guys not understand what a vigil is or do you really thing a homeless person who did wrong doesn't deserve the dignity of a service?

[Anonymous]

We need to change the "self-defense" laws for police. Now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys not understand what a vigil is or do you really thing a homeless person who did wrong doesn't deserve the dignity of a service?

Correct, He died like a dog, he died like a coward.

Did we celebrate Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to change the "self-defense" laws for police. Now.

What does this even mean?

[Anonymous]

Maybe Spanberger can sign an Assault Knife Ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Insane. The man held people at knifepoint. What about the woman he threatened? He's the victim now?

Did you read the article? The man barricaded himself in the store. Police fired multiple shots b/c he resisted and had a knife when they broke through barricade. It seems that bystanders reported he was homeless and having a mental health episode.

Mental health challenges explain violence with a knife, but do not excuse it.

A knife is a lethal weapon and you can defend yourself or others against someone with a knife by using another lethal weapon. Including a gun.

It sucks. But cops are not the enemy. Poor access to health care including mental health care is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to change the "self-defense" laws for police. Now.

What does this even mean?

It means that the cops will need to take a few stab wounds. Just one or two should be enough.

[Anonymous]

In these situations couldn’t they have gassed the room the guy was n and then carried out his body when he passed out. Kinda like they do in scooby doo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In these situations couldn’t they have gassed the room the guy was n and then carried out his body when he passed out. Kinda like they do in scooby doo

I would have waited it out until he was too tired to fight. Offered water but not food. Eventually he would have calmed down, or different negotiators could have come in. I don't think I would enter a room someone had barricaded themself in if they were no longer a harm to others.

Who knows, maybe the police officers and other personnel were concerned he was a danger to himself in there. I don't think they went in with bad intentions, I'm just curious for all the facts to come out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these situations couldn’t they have gassed the room the guy was n and then carried out his body when he passed out. Kinda like they do in scooby doo

I would have waited it out until he was too tired to fight. Offered water but not food. Eventually he would have calmed down, or different negotiators could have come in. I don't think I would enter a room someone had barricaded themself in if they were no longer a harm to others.

Who knows, maybe the police officers and other personnel were concerned he was a danger to himself in there. I don't think they went in with bad intentions, I'm just curious for all the facts to come out.

Do you think there was any food in the 7-11?

How many days do we need to wait for his psychotic break to end or do we just give up and let him own the 7-11?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In these situations couldn’t they have gassed the room the guy was n and then carried out his body when he passed out. Kinda like they do in scooby doo

I would have waited it out until he was too tired to fight. Offered water but not food. Eventually he would have calmed down, or different negotiators could have come in. I don't think I would enter a room someone had barricaded themself in if they were no longer a harm to others.

Who knows, maybe the police officers and other personnel were concerned he was a danger to himself in there. I don't think they went in with bad intentions, I'm just curious for all the facts to come out.

Do you think there was any food in the 7-11?

How many days do we need to wait for his psychotic break to end or do we just give up and let him own the 7-11?

I don't personally know what was in the back room there- whether an office verses inventory. Do you?