Ivy outcomes are often just, well, average

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Anonymous wrote:Dunno but damn if Harvard didn't but the beat down on Syracuse last weekend (lax).

Blind squirrels find an acorn every now and then.

Cornell was the D1 champ last year...this year, Cornell is ranked #3, Harvard #6 (Syracuse #7), Princeton #10, and Penn #19.

Syracuse 11 championships
Cornell 4 championships
Harvard…..still waiting

Blind squirrel found an acorn. They should enjoy the acorn, it was a great game and a nice win for Harvard.

Who cares how many championships? Indiana never won a D1 football championship until this year...does it matter that Michigan won a gazillion prior?

Syracuse hasn't won since 2009.

2009 is much more recent than “never”.

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Anonymous wrote:Life is all about your network.

Figure out what kind of kid you have. Will they do best if a network is handed to them on a platter, or are they scrappy enough to go and make one themselves?

Mine both are the former. Doing well at Ivy and a T10.

So true. That's the only reason for a private T20. Some are better than others. Choose wisely.

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Can't wait for AI to leave behind all these "selfish", "gate-keeping" and "nepotism" bad human traits.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not true. I have never met any family doctor who is an ivy graduate, undergrad or med school. They almost all ended up in some specialties or surgeons.

I do. I know a single practice which has pediatricians who did their undergrad at Yale, Stanford, and Northwestern. Their med schools anre equally impressive.

+1.

If we're talking undergrads, our pediatrician's office has doctors from Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Harvard (three). Ivy Leaguers make up the majority of the doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:Many highly intelligent people lack common sense and/or social skills. This does affect their career outcomes.

I think this is A LOT to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not true. I have never met any family doctor who is an ivy graduate, undergrad or med school. They almost all ended up in some specialties or surgeons.

I do. I know a single practice which has pediatricians who did their undergrad at Yale, Stanford, and Northwestern. Their med schools anre equally impressive.

+1.

If we're talking undergrads, our pediatrician's office has doctors from Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Harvard (three). Ivy Leaguers make up the majority of the doctors.

What's the difference between these doctors and those graduate from the medical schools overseas? $$$$ : $
They aren't better. People travel overseas for more careful treatments with less costs.

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I went to Yale and deliberately became a high school teacher. On purpose because I wanted to. Yale was fun and I got a good education. And, I got a really fantastic husband. 10 out of 10. Would recommend.

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Anyone still holding on to the illusion that an Ivy League degree is a golden ticket needs to wise up.

I'm not slamming the institutions or the people who go there, I'm happily married to one, but it doesn't tee you up for success for the rest
Of your life.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Yale and deliberately became a high school teacher. On purpose because I wanted to. Yale was fun and I got a good education. And, I got a really fantastic husband. 10 out of 10. Would recommend.

Lots of adults who were strong students become teachers. it's where you got all your positive affirmation as a child. You liked being the alpha dog then and you like it now. We all know people like you. You stopped evolving at 19 probably still talk about your SAT scores.

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Ouch. I went to a top SLAC undergrad and an Ivy grad. I work for the government. I definitely make a lot less money than my classmates who went into law, medicine, and consulting...a LOT less. I regret it sometimes. But it wasn't because I tried and wasn't successful in those fields, it was because I never thought high earning was the point of education.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Yale and deliberately became a high school teacher. On purpose because I wanted to. Yale was fun and I got a good education. And, I got a really fantastic husband. 10 out of 10. Would recommend.

Lots of adults who were strong students become teachers. it's where you got all your positive affirmation as a child. You liked being the alpha dog then and you like it now. We all know people like you. You stopped evolving at 19 probably still talk about your SAT scores.

DP: what a hateful thing to say.

To the Yale grad/teacher: sounds like a great use of your education/choices. Good husband, career path you always wanted, happy with college experience.

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This discussion misses the forest for the trees. Fully 70-80% of my H/Y/P peers went on to graduate or professional schools. That will be a much smaller percentage from T100 or T200 school. Those terminal degrees influence career outcomes much more then whether they went Ivy or JMU.

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Whatever you need to tell yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:It's all about the Ivy connections, forget the degree. That is why lax bros do so well out of these schools even though most would never get in on academic merit. Their athlete etwork is very tight and widespread.

The grinder who is holed up all 4 years but never networks usually finds out the degree was not worth it.

Correct. If you are not an athlete, you need to make sure you picked the right parents and elite high school.

I was a FA student at an Ivy, and my friends from similar hardscrabble backgrounds have pretty ordinary lives — the ones who soared were from private schools and full pay parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Ouch. I went to a top SLAC undergrad and an Ivy grad. I work for the government. I definitely make a lot less money than my classmates who went into law, medicine, and consulting...a LOT less. I regret it sometimes. But it wasn't because I tried and wasn't successful in those fields, it was because I never thought high earning was the point of education.

I was making like 2x my parents out of college doing meaningful work I loved, why chase the money? Then got married, had kids, and realized how ignorant and toxic the whole follow your passion spiel proved to be.