Women should approach more if they want to date 'in-person'

[Anonymous]

OP reminds me of a guy I know. A real misogynist loser, professional underachieved, lost custody of his kids, but unfortunately for the unwary women, quite attractive and tall.

Remember ladies - a man who starts saying ANYTHING even approaching a blanket resentment of women is a HUGE red flag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at an art event last night and crossed paths with a woman, who was with another woman and a guy. We first crossed paths walking past each other on the stairs and looked at each other and kept walking.

I later saw her separated from the other woman in one of the galleries and at first didn't feel like chatting with her (i wasn't in a talkative mood) so I mulled around the gallery and made a comment about her scarf as she was about to leave. Anyways we started chatting and 5 mins into the convo, she says "when I saw you on the stairs as you walked past us, i told my girlfriend how handsome you were"...

ladies...shoot your shot. If i never said something, we would've never connected.

it's exhausting to always be the one to shoot first. i don't mind doing it (it's the only way i meet people since i'm not online) but in 2025 women need to embrace more agency.

Men love being approached from all accounts, much more than women I'd assume, since we are approached a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But it worked because she did what she was supposed to do ..she kept making eye contact and got some time by herself so you would approach her.

it's a 5-story tall gallery - there were other baddies who I initially crossed paths with but the museum was so large I didn't see them again over the course of the evening.

that strategy works in smaller more intimate spaces. not pretty large/public areas

Again, she kept making sure she was around you so you would see her. So this strategy worked in a large event.

DP. That is exhausting. Plus the climate has changed. Most men now believe women do not want to be approached. It is time for women to put them selves out there and make the first move. Women have no excuses.

DP. No, not really. Women don't have to take on yet another responsibility because men like you have convinced themselves of some foolishness. You all know full well that what women are protesting is sexual harassment and predatory behavior. If you don't know the difference between approaching a woman respectfully in an appropriate venue versus sexually harassing her, then you need therapy and social skills education. Women don't have to do a single thing different because you have problems.

What is considered an appropriate venue dramatically changes person by person. I hate to bring pop culture into this, but there's literally a song that was released this year that is about how women going to a club just want to dance with each other and not get approached by men.

Your lack of social skills is fixable. Look into it.

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Anonymous wrote:But it worked because she did what she was supposed to do ..she kept making eye contact and got some time by herself so you would approach her.

it's a 5-story tall gallery - there were other baddies who I initially crossed paths with but the museum was so large I didn't see them again over the course of the evening.

that strategy works in smaller more intimate spaces. not pretty large/public areas

Again, she kept making sure she was around you so you would see her. So this strategy worked in a large event.

DP. That is exhausting. Plus the climate has changed. Most men now believe women do not want to be approached. It is time for women to put them selves out there and make the first move. Women have no excuses.

It’s not exhausting. Jesus, are you a porn addict or something? It’s part of a very fun game and it’s the reason the human species still exists.

It's part of a "very fun" game where women don't want to play by the same rules as the guy.

You men want to opt out of raising kids and keeping a home, out of giving up your identity, but you don’t want to be the man anymore in courting or sex or in the workplace. Figure it out, Joe. You love the patriarchy so much, your snowflake butt can go up to a female and say “how are you?”. It’s not hard.

I guess let's skip past the part where I talk about being a great dad and partner in the home and the part where you don't believe me. I was pointing out that you can tell that the game isn't "very fun" for both players by the fact that women mostly only want to play by the rules for Player One and don't want to play by the rules for Player Two.

Right, we should make every change that favors you because you're the most special boy in the world like mommy told you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lazy? Please. Men these days are doing *far* more parenting and work at home than the generations that came before. It's not even close.

And, in return, women absolutely despise them.

Wow, you mean you put your pants in the hamper instead of leaving them on the floor the way your useless father did? What a big boy you are. No one appreciates you enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at an art event last night and crossed paths with a woman, who was with another woman and a guy. We first crossed paths walking past each other on the stairs and looked at each other and kept walking.

I later saw her separated from the other woman in one of the galleries and at first didn't feel like chatting with her (i wasn't in a talkative mood) so I mulled around the gallery and made a comment about her scarf as she was about to leave. Anyways we started chatting and 5 mins into the convo, she says "when I saw you on the stairs as you walked past us, i told my girlfriend how handsome you were"...

ladies...shoot your shot. If i never said something, we would've never connected.

it's exhausting to always be the one to shoot first. i don't mind doing it (it's the only way i meet people since i'm not online) but in 2025 women need to embrace more agency.

I'm going to give it to you straight since you've clearly been coddled the way so many men have:

You don't have anything special going on. You're ugly and your personality sucks and you bring nothing worthwhile to conversations. That's why women don't approach you. You're not worth the effort, OK? You're the human equivalent of flyover country. As such, you have no right to expect anyone to approach you and you need to be grateful that women even respond when you approach. Get out of denial already. It's sickening how many of you losers act as if you'll die if you admit the truth that you're nothing special and have no right to make demands. And society plays along, stoking your delusions and never telling you to STFU. Meanwhile, women who are light years ahead of you by every parameter get cut down and gaslighted into low self-esteem every day.

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Anonymous wrote:Lazy? Please. Men these days are doing *far* more parenting and work at home than the generations that came before. It's not even close.

And, in return, women absolutely despise them.

That’s millennial men. The good millennial men are all married. And yes most millennial men do a lot of work at home and make great husbands.

It’s these Gen Z guys who can’t even pick up women, don’t want to do any chores and also don’t make good incomes/ on track to make good incomes.

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Anonymous wrote:Lazy? Please. Men these days are doing *far* more parenting and work at home than the generations that came before. It's not even close.

And, in return, women absolutely despise them.

That’s millennial men. The good millennial men are all married. And yes most millennial men do a lot of work at home and make great husbands.

It’s these Gen Z guys who can’t even pick up women, don’t want to do any chores and also don’t make good incomes/ on track to make good incomes.

Yes, the 18yo-30 yo men are now way better "trained" to be the actual partners than 40-50yo. They are all divorced for a reason . Ex wives didn't want them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was at an art event last night and crossed paths with a woman, who was with another woman and a guy. We first crossed paths walking past each other on the stairs and looked at each other and kept walking.

I later saw her separated from the other woman in one of the galleries and at first didn't feel like chatting with her (i wasn't in a talkative mood) so I mulled around the gallery and made a comment about her scarf as she was about to leave. Anyways we started chatting and 5 mins into the convo, she says "when I saw you on the stairs as you walked past us, i told my girlfriend how handsome you were"...

ladies...shoot your shot. If i never said something, we would've never connected.

it's exhausting to always be the one to shoot first. i don't mind doing it (it's the only way i meet people since i'm not online) but in 2025 women need to embrace more agency.

Considering how skewed towards men the benefits of sex and relationships are, and how much greater the burdens on women are of marriage and child rearing, the least you can do as a man as get off your behind and make the first move. The laziness and entitlement of this era of men is just appalling.

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Anonymous wrote:My god what is the purpose even of men if they can’t even approach women?! They can’t approach women, they can’t pay for the entire date and have to go Dutch, they can’t pick you up… and yet they still can’t cook and clean either. They want some kind of traditional marriage where the woman does all the work, yet still brings home 50% of income.

FWIW I never had to ask men out on dates and still had plenty of dates. I also have a wonderful marriage and am not bitter about men. My dh is great. But I look at the next generation (gen z) and really feel for the women. These are the biggest group of lazy losers I’ve seen. Most don’t even have good incomes.

Well Gen X men and women raised them.

I am Gen X. My kids are 11 and 14. So, no.

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Anonymous wrote:But it worked because she did what she was supposed to do ..she kept making eye contact and got some time by herself so you would approach her.

it's a 5-story tall gallery - there were other baddies who I initially crossed paths with but the museum was so large I didn't see them again over the course of the evening.

that strategy works in smaller more intimate spaces. not pretty large/public areas

Again, she kept making sure she was around you so you would see her. So this strategy worked in a large event.

DP. That is exhausting. Plus the climate has changed. Most men now believe women do not want to be approached. It is time for women to put them selves out there and make the first move. Women have no excuses.

I’m a shameless flirt when I find a handsome single guy in the wild. That said- the world needs more handsome 45-55 single men.

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Anonymous wrote:My god what is the purpose even of men if they can’t even approach women?! They can’t approach women, they can’t pay for the entire date and have to go Dutch, they can’t pick you up… and yet they still can’t cook and clean either. They want some kind of traditional marriage where the woman does all the work, yet still brings home 50% of income.

FWIW I never had to ask men out on dates and still had plenty of dates. I also have a wonderful marriage and am not bitter about men. My dh is great. But I look at the next generation (gen z) and really feel for the women. These are the biggest group of lazy losers I’ve seen. Most don’t even have good incomes.

Well Gen X men and women raised them.

I am Gen X. My kids are 11 and 14. So, no.

Is your anecdote supposed to convince us Gen Z is not raised by Gen X? By the way, your 14 year old is Gen Z.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at an art event last night and crossed paths with a woman, who was with another woman and a guy. We first crossed paths walking past each other on the stairs and looked at each other and kept walking.

I later saw her separated from the other woman in one of the galleries and at first didn't feel like chatting with her (i wasn't in a talkative mood) so I mulled around the gallery and made a comment about her scarf as she was about to leave. Anyways we started chatting and 5 mins into the convo, she says "when I saw you on the stairs as you walked past us, i told my girlfriend how handsome you were"...

ladies...shoot your shot. If i never said something, we would've never connected.

it's exhausting to always be the one to shoot first. i don't mind doing it (it's the only way i meet people since i'm not online) but in 2025 women need to embrace more agency.

Considering how skewed towards men the benefits of sex and relationships are, and how much greater the burdens on women are of marriage and child rearing, the least you can do as a man as get off your behind and make the first move. The laziness and entitlement of this era of men is just appalling.

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Agreed. OP sounds like a weak petty entitled unconfident loser.

I would stop see any man who wrote this immediately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lazy? Please. Men these days are doing *far* more parenting and work at home than the generations that came before. It's not even close.

And, in return, women absolutely despise them.

That’s millennial men. The good millennial men are all married. And yes most millennial men do a lot of work at home and make great husbands.

It’s these Gen Z guys who can’t even pick up women, don’t want to do any chores and also don’t make good incomes/ on track to make good incomes.

I worked with a Gen Z kid when he was right out of college. I’m a genx’er. We often take long road trips to out of town meetings and he’d be on his phone the whole time using witty pickup lines on the apps setting up dates wherever we were going. Said in college, he’d be in a crowded bar and everyone would be matching on their phones. Had never approached a girl cold, and thus had never been rejected/denied. but definitely got laid more than I did at that age.

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Anonymous wrote:Lazy? Please. Men these days are doing *far* more parenting and work at home than the generations that came before. It's not even close.

And, in return, women absolutely despise them.

That’s millennial men. The good millennial men are all married. And yes most millennial men do a lot of work at home and make great husbands.

It’s these Gen Z guys who can’t even pick up women, don’t want to do any chores and also don’t make good incomes/ on track to make good incomes.

I worked with a Gen Z kid when he was right out of college. I’m a genx’er. We often take long road trips to out of town meetings and he’d be on his phone the whole time using witty pickup lines on the apps setting up dates wherever we were going. Said in college, he’d be in a crowded bar and everyone would be matching on their phones. Had never approached a girl cold, and thus had never been rejected/denied. but definitely got laid more than I did at that age.

I find this so incredibly pathetic.