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STEM means a lot to the world. |
I thought UVA was the 4th Public? |
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Top American colleges from other rankings:
From Pipeline Quarterly: 1. Bucknell From Plagiarismo del Mundo: 2. Harvard Universidad From Reportisch der Bullhornen 5. Universität Coumbia |
I agree it’s pretty darn close. We all know rankings aren’t precise or totally objective anyway, but the gist is the same and usually aligns with academics’ views of these schools. |
I'm no apologist for the University of Notre Dame, but that last comment is pretty harsh. Sure, Notre Dame is a football school, but it's a very well regarded academic institution with an emphasis on undergraduate education. To imply that the school is not elite because it's not a behemoth research giant like UMich, Berkeley, or MIT seems misguided, especially since the Times Higher Ed's rankings are precisely that -- a research university-centric ranking. |
| For these idiots…U of Arizona is a better Institution than Notre Dame. For those looking at Notre Dame, why waster your time? just go to Arizona…. Please |
I understand what you are saying...BUT the fact that Notre Dame is not up there with the Top Stem schools for research made it a less attractive option for my Engineering focused kid . But we truly did like everything else about the school. I would say they do sell the football program quite a bit there and there is nothing wrong with that. |
Kudos to your student for knowing themselves well enough to gravitate more towards research-heavy STEM schools. As for football, I think there are just some schools that are in position to leverage their respective combination of academics and athletics, places like Stanford, Michigan, Notre Dame, UCLA. I mean, if you've got the pedigree, use it. Today's SEC schools are also using their football teams and overall athletics program as a sort of "welcome mat" to get kids interested in the institution. If ya got it, flaunt it, baby! |
| It’s grad schools and research that bring a university world wide fame. |
| Y’all send your kids to U of Arizona…I will keep ND. |
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Quality of undergrad is more important if you are shopping for undergrad school. Harvey Mudd is not even on this list because no grad programs. But Mudd is GREAT at undergrad STEM. |
omg not this again...this is getting so old. It's not just these schools have graduate schools but it is also the undergraduate research opportunities at these at these schools which are created by the graduate work. They go hand in hand. Harvey Mudd cannot compete with the Top Stem schools for research opportunities for undergrads. They are fine in their lane but they are in a different lane and it's not close. |
Again, send your kids to U of Arizona then…..spare me the bullshit |