US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

Anonymous
You don’t think our own military has its own boats or aircraft that can match a shitty third world hot rodded speedboat?


Actually, no, I don't think so. Our navy really isn't built for speed. The Coast Guard might, though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many fist bump, bicep, and flag emojis were on the text message chat that authorized this one?


You forgot the fire emoji.
Anonymous
Common understanding is if Trump goes hard at the cartels they will strike back with a terrorist campaign in red states.

These cartel control sheriffs, US Marshals, FBI agents, DHS, ICE, etc. Word is most of the state government of Texas is on the take specially Texas state law enforcement. Lots of money to be made in the guns, people and drug trade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did Trump have concrete, 100% proof that this boat was smuggling drugs?

It's amazing how US citizens just believe everything they hear and are OK with killings when it's done to foreigners.


Of course not. They needed to create a situation to justify the deportation of Venezuelans. The boat was likely empty.
Anonymous
did they do this because of the 5th circuit ruling yesterday on the alien enemy act, which will send the case to the Supreme court?

(betting yes)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
You don’t think our own military has its own boats or aircraft that can match a shitty third world hot rodded speedboat?


Actually, no, I don't think so. Our navy really isn't built for speed. The Coast Guard might, though.


Aircraft, missiles and navy gun fire go fast enough. The US military is not the police and is a very blunt weapon.
Anonymous
Still not tired of winning!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I support intimidating narco traffic, which kills millions every year worldwide, but I don't know whether this operation was legal, and whether this administration did their due diligence in making sure all aboard were guilty of heinous crimes. We do not kill people just because we suspect they're criminals, and we do not kill criminals caught in the act unless they are an immediate threat to life.

So in fact, I'm quite sure this was illegal, and government-sanctioned murder.


I agree. Use some logic. If there were 11 people aboard that 24’ open dory with four big engines, the cargo was some of those humans. Trump blew up traffickers and their victims. They should have followed protocol which is to wait until they are in U.S. waters and board the boat. Interview those aboard. Gather intel. Engage in a fire fight if fired on first.
I think Trump intended to proudly announce this war crime yesterday at his bizarre news conference, but a victim boat had not been annihilated yet. That’s why he was 45 minutes late to the podium.


It's actually a simple choice. Do you want a government that carries out actions based on the law, or do you want a government that doesn't? Because when you opt for the one that doesn't, you ultimately end up being Russia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did Trump have concrete, 100% proof that this boat was smuggling drugs?

It's amazing how US citizens just believe everything they hear and are OK with killings when it's done to foreigners.


Of course not. They needed to create a situation to justify the deportation of Venezuelans. The boat was likely empty.


Looked like people in the boat in the video. I don't see this admin going to the trouble of filling a boat with dummies and blowing it up. What blows my mind is wondering what the chain of command (after Hegseth) was in deciding to do this. At least under Bush and Trump 1.0 we had a semblance of a DOJ and traditional military command.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did Trump have concrete, 100% proof that this boat was smuggling drugs?

It's amazing how US citizens just believe everything they hear and are OK with killings when it's done to foreigners.


Of course not. They needed to create a situation to justify the deportation of Venezuelans. The boat was likely empty.


Looked like people in the boat in the video. I don't see this admin going to the trouble of filling a boat with dummies and blowing it up. What blows my mind is wondering what the chain of command (after Hegseth) was in deciding to do this. At least under Bush and Trump 1.0 we had a semblance of a DOJ and traditional military command.


Trump has replaced all the senior military with maga members. These people will not hesitate to kill people. They are planning on using the US military to do the same things in the states.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.


Wit till the Narcs strike back. The drug cartels all employ ex US special forces and some current ones. Fort Bragg Cartel Is for hire!


Link?


Drug Trafficking in U.S. Special Forces: Journalist Seth Harp on ‘The Fort Bragg Cartel’.

President Trump recently threatened to use U.S. special forces to fight drug cartels in Mexico. But New America Fellow Seth Harp found that members of the U.S. military elite that Trump wants to deploy have actually collaborated with cartels in narco-trafficking schemes. In his debut book The Fort Bragg Cartel: Drug Trafficking and Murder in the Special Forces, out today, Harp investigates a string of unsolved murders at America’s premier special operations base and uncovers its connection to drug trafficking, fueled by a culture of cover-ups and corruption

https://www.newamerica.org/the-thread/fort-bragg-cartel-drug-trafficking-seth-harp/

Bail denied for ex-Army Ranger accused of trafficking guns for Mexican cartel
A former Army Ranger from San Antonio accused of supplying one of Mexico’s drug cartels with hundreds of high-powered firearms and tens of thousands of bullets will remain in jail

https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Bail-denied-for-ex-Army-Ranger-accused-of-13462389.php

Did Former U.S. Special Operators Train a Cartel’s Kill Squad?
A former Delta Force soldier and two SEALs are accused of training Jalisco Cartel’s paramilitary force spent some time talking to Pierre Rausini, a convicted drug trafficker who recently wrapped up two decades in custody. Rausini made some waves a few weeks ago when he dropped a startling claim on a podcast about four former U.S. special operators working for a Mexican cartel.

According to Rausini, a former Delta Force soldier, two ex-Navy SEALs, and a veteran of the 75th Ranger Regiment have helped train the New Generation Jalisco Cartel’s paramilitary wing for years. These former U.S. special operators oversee several hundred ex-soldiers, primarily from Mexico and Central America.

“The paramilitary wing of Jalisco is their pride and joy,” Rausini told me. “Given the level of professional…

https://theiceman.substack.com/p/did-former-us-special-operators-train


There are so many stories are out there.


Have any been confirmed? I’d love to see confirmation from a respected news outlet.
Anonymous
If the U.S. military isn't going to release details on the justification for killing 11 civilians in a civilian boat who weren't posing a threat to anyone, then we have to conclude the "justification" is: the U.S. military is willing to kill civilians to give Trump social media content.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Common understanding is if Trump goes hard at the cartels they will strike back with a terrorist campaign in red states.

These cartel control sheriffs, US Marshals, FBI agents, DHS, ICE, etc. Word is most of the state government of Texas is on the take specially Texas state law enforcement. Lots of money to be made in the guns, people and drug trade.


Is common understanding vetted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Common understanding is if Trump goes hard at the cartels they will strike back with a terrorist campaign in red states.

These cartel control sheriffs, US Marshals, FBI agents, DHS, ICE, etc. Word is most of the state government of Texas is on the take specially Texas state law enforcement. Lots of money to be made in the guns, people and drug trade.


Is common understanding vetted?



lol Tulsi Gabbard?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CNN has the video. It's an open boat, people are visible, and they just blow it up.
Obama's drone strikes were definitely problematic legally, but on the other hand they were directly related to a shooting war.

Al Qaeda and ISIS had military and political goals. I don't see that as the case with purely criminal drug gangs.




I'm not sure I see much of a difference between Islamic terrorists and Narco terrorists. They both bring death.

And the cartels are as vile and evil as ISIS. The way the cartels torture people is probably even worse than the Islamic extremists. These cartels are serious organizations. And they should be taken seriously.

If the intelligence was good, I think the US Navy did the world a favor taking out these Venezuelan drug traffickers. And I suspect at least 80 percent of Americans would support using our military to hit cartels. I don't think people in Bethesda or Alexandria realize how devastating drugs have been to other communities - both urban and small town America. We are losing more than 100,000 people a year because of people like these Venezuelans. Killing eleven of them probably saved the lives of hundreds of Americans who didn't OD on their crap.


There is no one doing drug intelligence in the US government. All those people and resources are dedicated to rounding up day laborers and demanding proof of citizenship in DC. This was a hit. Most likely a cartel was not making payments to Trump and his republican underlings. This had not to do with stopping drugs or “saving” people in the US.

The US military is not about keeping US citizens safe or protecting freedoms.


You have it mistaken, all the intelligence assets are hard at work making stuff up about the conflict in Ukraine.
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