An insane surrogacy story

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

The evidence at hand — which seems to be substantial and is detailed in the article — does not support this whatsoever.

Read the complaint that the IPs filed. It tells a very different story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

I don't agree that being a surrogate should give external parties control over your sex life, when you seek medical care, and full access to any information those people want to know about you. I can't comment on her actual contract but I don't think she acted in bad faith and I believe she did what she could to ensure the baby's survival.

It's a mistake to sue a surrogate for a stillbirth. There is no legal punishment or monetary compensation that will offset the loss of the baby. If someone tries to help you and it goes wrong, or does a job for you that's only 95% done right, suing them is basically just revenge when there's no chance of actually resolving the original problem. Nothing will bring the baby back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

I don't agree that being a surrogate should give external parties control over your sex life, when you seek medical care, and full access to any information those people want to know about you. I can't comment on her actual contract but I don't think she acted in bad faith and I believe she did what she could to ensure the baby's survival.

It's a mistake to sue a surrogate for a stillbirth. There is no legal punishment or monetary compensation that will offset the loss of the baby. If someone tries to help you and it goes wrong, or does a job for you that's only 95% done right, suing them is basically just revenge when there's no chance of actually resolving the original problem. Nothing will bring the baby back.

The surrogate agreed to relinquish control over those things in exchange for money. She then failed to abide by the terms of the agreement. It’s a breach of contract like any other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, anyone who is considering being a surrogate should read this article. The fact that Bi contacted psychics then used their "visions" to harass the woman is beyond insane.

To me the part where she described her second surrogacy as “perfect” when that poor woman had to have a hysterectomy before she bled out after the birth boggles my mind.

Especially when you consider that the placenta issue that led to the bleeding/hysterectomy is related to the DNA from the parents not the surrogate. Very sad.

[Anonymous]

No, I don’t think she agreed do relinquish control of her sex life. Nor whether her 1st grader could sleep in her bed, etc.

I have rarely read something that so strongly screams severe personality disorder (I know the article mentions bipolar, but what I read is not explained by bipolar. )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP. This is the content I come here for! I'm wondering if all these "tldr" posters are some kind of surrogacy apologetics.
Unbelievable story. The part that really got me was when the rich woman freaked about her baby measuring in the 30th percentile for growth and worried that he was "defective" already. What a nightmare to be around.

Yup. It’s as though she forgot that it’s her genes that went into making that baby, not the surrogate’s!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally horrifying. The "intended parent" who is harassing her poor surrogate should be prosecuted for harassment.

And PPs, if this article is too long for you to read, consider changing your information habits. It's a normal magazine-length piece. Why is that too hard for you?

The victim (i.e surrogate) is based in Virginia. I wish there was some way of helping her. Like GoFundMe or finding her legal help.

[Anonymous]

This article does a great job exposing the vulnerable position of the surrogate. Wow.

I would also contribute to the surrogate’s legal fees.

A key fact mentioned once in the article: Bi is bipolar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

I don't agree that being a surrogate should give external parties control over your sex life, when you seek medical care, and full access to any information those people want to know about you. I can't comment on her actual contract but I don't think she acted in bad faith and I believe she did what she could to ensure the baby's survival.

It's a mistake to sue a surrogate for a stillbirth. There is no legal punishment or monetary compensation that will offset the loss of the baby. If someone tries to help you and it goes wrong, or does a job for you that's only 95% done right, suing them is basically just revenge when there's no chance of actually resolving the original problem. Nothing will bring the baby back.

The surrogate agreed to relinquish control over those things in exchange for money. She then failed to abide by the terms of the agreement. It’s a breach of contract like any other.

You have no proof of this. Just what a bunch of “psychics” reported.

[Anonymous]

And Bi’s sending the photo of the baby to her son-she’s the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

The evidence at hand — which seems to be substantial and is detailed in the article — does not support this whatsoever.

Read the complaint that the IPs filed. It tells a very different story.

Complaints are meaningless. Crazy people can allege anything in a complaint and often do. It is nothing approaching actual evidence.

The Wired article meticulously picks through the evidence. Nothing supports the idea that the IP was anything other than fully in the wrong. The court losses and lawyers that have walked away are also significant indicators of the weaknesses of the IP’s claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article does a great job exposing the vulnerable position of the surrogate. Wow.

I would also contribute to the surrogate’s legal fees.

A key fact mentioned once in the article: Bi is bipolar.

That seems quite obvious even without being stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did the rich person do?

I’m not going to read a long article. Usually these things can be summarized in a few sentences.

Everything possible to try to wreck the life of the surrogate who experienced still birth while hospitalized. Suing her, cutting off payments, leaving surrogate on the hook for hospital bills (including weeks of inpatient monitoring). Bi wants her to go to jail, lose her own son, etc.

Also mentions that placental problems are due to the dna of the embryo and this isn’t routinely disclosed to the GC. Gestational diabetes, placenta previa, abruption, etc.

Bi also said her next GC was perfect, despite the fact that her GC experienced severe bleeding necessitating an emergency hysterectomy and ICU admission with intubation.

Alternative version: GC lied to IPs about her living situation and concealed material information from them throughout pregnancy, including a placental abruption. She then made a series of poor decisions that killed the fetus.

I don't agree that being a surrogate should give external parties control over your sex life, when you seek medical care, and full access to any information those people want to know about you. I can't comment on her actual contract but I don't think she acted in bad faith and I believe she did what she could to ensure the baby's survival.

It's a mistake to sue a surrogate for a stillbirth. There is no legal punishment or monetary compensation that will offset the loss of the baby. If someone tries to help you and it goes wrong, or does a job for you that's only 95% done right, suing them is basically just revenge when there's no chance of actually resolving the original problem. Nothing will bring the baby back.

The surrogate agreed to relinquish control over those things in exchange for money. She then failed to abide by the terms of the agreement. It’s a breach of contract like any other.

You are quite clearly not a lawyer. This is a nonsense take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I don’t think she agreed do relinquish control of her sex life. Nor whether her 1st grader could sleep in her bed, etc.

I have rarely read something that so strongly screams severe personality disorder (I know the article mentions bipolar, but what I read is not explained by bipolar. )

Yes personality disorder seems much more appropriate. That article was horrifying, that poor poor surrogate. Absolutely INSANE.

[Anonymous]

This person has to be toxic on other ways, no? I'd be interested to know...maybe people are too scared to talk about it.