ICE - Face Masks and Warrants

Anonymous
Clearly some elected officials and at least one professional law association think there's a problem with mask-wearing by ICE (or their surrogates). ICE fanboy and other MAGA posters seem to think it's a-okay for ICE agents to obscure their faces without admitting that it may generate fear and a lack of trust in public officials.

Several jurisdictions have taken steps to address the issue of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents wearing masks during enforcement operations, primarily due to concerns about transparency, accountability, and public safety.

*California State Senators Scott Wiener and Jesse Arreguín introduced the "No Secret Police Act" (SB 627) in June 2025, which would prohibit local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, from concealing their faces during public interactions, with exceptions for SWAT teams or medical masks during natural disasters.

*New York City Bar Association: In June 2025, the NYC Bar Association issued a statement condemning ICE agents’ use of masks as an effort to evade accountability, arguing it violates federal regulations requiring officers to identify themselves. They called for immediate action to address this practice.

*NY Representatives Adriano Espaillat and Dan Goldman (NY) introduced the "No Secret Police Act" in the U.S. House in June 2025, aiming to ban ICE agents from wearing non-tactical masks during arrests and requiring clear display of identification.

*TN State Representative Justin Jones (D-Nashville) filed a bill in July 2025 to establish a new criminal offense for law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, wearing face masks during arrests, aiming to enhance transparency and accountability.

*Virginia U.S. Senators Mark R. Warner and Tim Kaine sent a letter to ICE in May 2025, pressing the agency to follow Department of Homeland Security (DHS) regulations requiring officers to properly identify themselves and limit the use of face coverings during enforcement operations. They cited incidents in Virginia causing panic and danger due to masked, unidentified agents.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye!


See above. My keen eye catches the details.


Oh, a split second glance is sufficient?

Whatever.

Keep defending the shit we supposedly spent decades fighting against. Fascism is fascism.


You can pretty clearly see in the footage that once the officers pull the badges out of their clothing, they leave them visibly on their chest.


DP. At around 31 seconds in, a male and then a female say, "We're the police." What do you make of that? Do ICE agents usually go around saying, "We're the police" or are they required to say, "We're ICE agents," or "We're with Immigration and Customs Enforcement" or the like? Can any LEO say "I/we're the police" if they're not actually police but a different type of LEO? Because the student was clearly scared and confused as to who they were--i.e., it wasn't immediately apparent to her that they were LEOs. Flashing a badge without saying who you are with and why you are detaining someone does not seem to be enough, especially to someone from another country.


That seems fine to me. If you’re dealing with someone who isn’t from this country and may not speak great english, it seems much clearer to initially say “police” rather than “immigration and customs enforcement.”

I’m not sure what you mean by law enforcement officers who aren’t police. Federal agents are still police officers.


Well, it doesn't seem fine to me and many others who were outraged by the video. Even the neighbor who shot the video is heard to say something like, "How do we know you're the police." To most people in the US and other countries (I have lived and travelled in many and speak four languages), when someone says the word "police," most people take it to mean local police, not special law enforcement agents of some kind. Local police wear a uniform and are easily identified in every country. Most people see them as someone to call upon for assistance if they fear for their safety--in other words, they see them as a source of protection. The student was clearly afraid of the six individuals who accosted her, not reassured by their presence. She also had no clue why they were taking her since she had not done anything wrong. It's not like she just left a store where she had shoplifted some items.

I think we're at a point in this country with Stephen Miller's directive for 3,000 ICE arrests a day and given the high visibility of these actions via social media posts that there should be a clear protocol followed by all ICE officers and those deputized to serve as ICE officers about how to conduct ICE arrests in a way that makes it immediately clear who they are and what they're doing.
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Anonymous wrote:^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye!


See above. My keen eye catches the details.


Oh, a split second glance is sufficient?

Whatever.

Keep defending the shit we supposedly spent decades fighting against. Fascism is fascism.


You can pretty clearly see in the footage that once the officers pull the badges out of their clothing, they leave them visibly on their chest.


DP. At around 31 seconds in, a male and then a female say, "We're the police." What do you make of that? Do ICE agents usually go around saying, "We're the police" or are they required to say, "We're ICE agents," or "We're with Immigration and Customs Enforcement" or the like? Can any LEO say "I/we're the police" if they're not actually police but a different type of LEO? Because the student was clearly scared and confused as to who they were--i.e., it wasn't immediately apparent to her that they were LEOs. Flashing a badge without saying who you are with and why you are detaining someone does not seem to be enough, especially to someone from another country.


That seems fine to me. If you’re dealing with someone who isn’t from this country and may not speak great english, it seems much clearer to initially say “police” rather than “immigration and customs enforcement.”

I’m not sure what you mean by law enforcement officers who aren’t police. Federal agents are still police officers.


Well, it doesn't seem fine to me and many others who were outraged by the video. Even the neighbor who shot the video is heard to say something like, "How do we know you're the police." To most people in the US and other countries (I have lived and travelled in many and speak four languages), when someone says the word "police," most people take it to mean local police, not special law enforcement agents of some kind. Local police wear a uniform and are easily identified in every country. Most people see them as someone to call upon for assistance if they fear for their safety--in other words, they see them as a source of protection. The student was clearly afraid of the six individuals who accosted her, not reassured by their presence. She also had no clue why they were taking her since she had not done anything wrong. It's not like she just left a store where she had shoplifted some items.

I think we're at a point in this country with Stephen Miller's directive for 3,000 ICE arrests a day and given the high visibility of these actions via social media posts that there should be a clear protocol followed by all ICE officers and those deputized to serve as ICE officers about how to conduct ICE arrests in a way that makes it immediately clear who they are and what they're doing.


Can you explain this a little more? I’m not sure how identifying themselves as ICE first would be any better. In at least some cases, the arrestee isn’t going to know what that means. If the arrestee does understand what Immigration and Customs Enforcement is, why would they be any less scared than if the officer simply identified themself as a police officer? Is the concern that because they’re in plain clothes but identify themselves as police, arrestees won’t believe them?
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Can ICE take anybody they want just because?
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Anonymous wrote:^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye!


See above. My keen eye catches the details.


Oh, a split second glance is sufficient?

Whatever.

Keep defending the shit we supposedly spent decades fighting against. Fascism is fascism.


You can pretty clearly see in the footage that once the officers pull the badges out of their clothing, they leave them visibly on their chest.


DP. At around 31 seconds in, a male and then a female say, "We're the police." What do you make of that? Do ICE agents usually go around saying, "We're the police" or are they required to say, "We're ICE agents," or "We're with Immigration and Customs Enforcement" or the like? Can any LEO say "I/we're the police" if they're not actually police but a different type of LEO? Because the student was clearly scared and confused as to who they were--i.e., it wasn't immediately apparent to her that they were LEOs. Flashing a badge without saying who you are with and why you are detaining someone does not seem to be enough, especially to someone from another country.


That seems fine to me. If you’re dealing with someone who isn’t from this country and may not speak great english, it seems much clearer to initially say “police” rather than “immigration and customs enforcement.”

I’m not sure what you mean by law enforcement officers who aren’t police. Federal agents are still police officers.


Well, it doesn't seem fine to me and many others who were outraged by the video. Even the neighbor who shot the video is heard to say something like, "How do we know you're the police." To most people in the US and other countries (I have lived and travelled in many and speak four languages), when someone says the word "police," most people take it to mean local police, not special law enforcement agents of some kind. Local police wear a uniform and are easily identified in every country. Most people see them as someone to call upon for assistance if they fear for their safety--in other words, they see them as a source of protection. The student was clearly afraid of the six individuals who accosted her, not reassured by their presence. She also had no clue why they were taking her since she had not done anything wrong. It's not like she just left a store where she had shoplifted some items.

I think we're at a point in this country with Stephen Miller's directive for 3,000 ICE arrests a day and given the high visibility of these actions via social media posts that there should be a clear protocol followed by all ICE officers and those deputized to serve as ICE officers about how to conduct ICE arrests in a way that makes it immediately clear who they are and what they're doing.


Can you explain this a little more? I’m not sure how identifying themselves as ICE first would be any better. In at least some cases, the arrestee isn’t going to know what that means. If the arrestee does understand what Immigration and Customs Enforcement is, why would they be any less scared than if the officer simply identified themself as a police officer? Is the concern that because they’re in plain clothes but identify themselves as police, arrestees won’t believe them?


Yes, the plain clothes + the masks are a concern. In most countries, regular police wear a uniform and don't wear masks.

And regarding what word to use, immediately saying "immigration" or "la migra" if it's a Latino they're dealing with would be helpful because it provides context and helps orient the person being detained to the nature of the interaction--that it's about an immigration matter and not, say, shoplifting.
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Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction


Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

But how do you know the masked man is ICE and not some kidnapper? Though some of what ICE is doing is pretty much akin to kidnapping.
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Anonymous wrote:Can ICE take anybody they want just because?

seems like it, since there is no requirement for due process.

Like I've been saying, Hispanic people should always carry their US passport. Your driver's license is not enough.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye!


See above. My keen eye catches the details.


Oh, a split second glance is sufficient?

Whatever.

Keep defending the shit we supposedly spent decades fighting against. Fascism is fascism.


You can pretty clearly see in the footage that once the officers pull the badges out of their clothing, they leave them visibly on their chest.


DP. At around 31 seconds in, a male and then a female say, "We're the police." What do you make of that? Do ICE agents usually go around saying, "We're the police" or are they required to say, "We're ICE agents," or "We're with Immigration and Customs Enforcement" or the like? Can any LEO say "I/we're the police" if they're not actually police but a different type of LEO? Because the student was clearly scared and confused as to who they were--i.e., it wasn't immediately apparent to her that they were LEOs. Flashing a badge without saying who you are with and why you are detaining someone does not seem to be enough, especially to someone from another country.


That seems fine to me. If you’re dealing with someone who isn’t from this country and may not speak great english, it seems much clearer to initially say “police” rather than “immigration and customs enforcement.”

I’m not sure what you mean by law enforcement officers who aren’t police. Federal agents are still police officers.


Well, it doesn't seem fine to me and many others who were outraged by the video. Even the neighbor who shot the video is heard to say something like, "How do we know you're the police." To most people in the US and other countries (I have lived and travelled in many and speak four languages), when someone says the word "police," most people take it to mean local police, not special law enforcement agents of some kind. Local police wear a uniform and are easily identified in every country. Most people see them as someone to call upon for assistance if they fear for their safety--in other words, they see them as a source of protection. The student was clearly afraid of the six individuals who accosted her, not reassured by their presence. She also had no clue why they were taking her since she had not done anything wrong. It's not like she just left a store where she had shoplifted some items.

I think we're at a point in this country with Stephen Miller's directive for 3,000 ICE arrests a day and given the high visibility of these actions via social media posts that there should be a clear protocol followed by all ICE officers and those deputized to serve as ICE officers about how to conduct ICE arrests in a way that makes it immediately clear who they are and what they're doing.


Can you explain this a little more? I’m not sure how identifying themselves as ICE first would be any better. In at least some cases, the arrestee isn’t going to know what that means. If the arrestee does understand what Immigration and Customs Enforcement is, why would they be any less scared than if the officer simply identified themself as a police officer? Is the concern that because they’re in plain clothes but identify themselves as police, arrestees won’t believe them?


Yes, the plain clothes + the masks are a concern. In most countries, regular police wear a uniform and don't wear masks.

And regarding what word to use, immediately saying "immigration" or "la migra" if it's a Latino they're dealing with would be helpful because it provides context and helps orient the person being detained to the nature of the interaction--that it's about an immigration matter and not, say, shoplifting.


That seems reasonable to me. I think immediately identifying themselves to the arrestee as both police and immigration makes sense.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never go willingly with a man in a facemask who refused to show a legal badge and warrant.
That is abduction


Most people who are arrested don’t want to be. Police are used to dealing with people who refuse to go willingly.

But how do you know the masked man is ICE and not some kidnapper? Though some of what ICE is doing is pretty much akin to kidnapping.


I agree that ICE agents should have to wear and produce a badge when arresting someone.
Anonymous
If we are so proud of rounding up bad guys, why the cloak and dagger with masks and no badges? Why are we showing up to LEGAL court hearing snatching people. Why should anyone go with a masked man with NO identification?
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Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.
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Anonymous wrote:If we are so proud of rounding up bad guys, why the cloak and dagger with masks and no badges? Why are we showing up to LEGAL court hearing snatching people. Why should anyone go with a masked man with NO identification?


They do have badges. You keep saying that and no one can identify a single case where someone was arrested by an officer without a badge.
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Anonymous wrote:Wear a f^cking uniform already. If the work being done is honorable, don’t hide behind the argument that those being arrested / detained MAY resist. Wearing street clothes certainly doesn’t reduce the risk of that anyway … in fact, it does just the opposite.

FFS, I’m a fifth generation natural born citizen of Western European heritage and I've resorted to carrying my passport on a daily basis now, too. This has gotten goddamned ridiculous, and everyone knows it.


Most federal LE agencies are plainclothes. This isn’t unique to ICE and it isn’t new.
Anonymous
Here's another case where two plain clothes individuals (one wearing a pink shirt and long hair tied in a pony tail and another wearing a balaclava and carrying a backpack) grabbed a Latino man in a courthouse in Charlottesville and escorted him out to an unmarked car. Although they apparently had shown paperwork and credentials to bailiffs before the arrest (according to the county sheriff), it's easy to see why presenting themselves as they did may have concerned onlookers who didn't know that. Wearing a loose pink shirt over jeans and sporting a pony tail does not exactly scream "law enforcement" to me--neither does a dude in jeans wearing a balaclava and carrying a backpack. The third agent is wearing khakis and a hoodie. But at least he doesn't cover his face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_QoGP_6NOo
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Anonymous wrote:If we are so proud of rounding up bad guys, why the cloak and dagger with masks and no badges? Why are we showing up to LEGAL court hearing snatching people. Why should anyone go with a masked man with NO identification?


They do have badges. You keep saying that and no one can identify a single case where someone was arrested by an officer without a badge.


But they don't always display them continuously. They should hang them around their neck on a lanyard or pin them on their chests or something. Even the sheriffs in the Old West did that.
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