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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^ ICE fanboy, please explain how the most prominent case of these psycho abductions (without following the law and identifying the themselves) escaped your keen eye![/quote]

See above. My keen eye catches the details.[/quote]

Oh, a split second glance is sufficient?

Whatever.

Keep defending the shit we supposedly spent decades fighting against. Fascism is fascism.[/quote]

You can pretty clearly see in the footage that once the officers pull the badges out of their clothing, they leave them visibly on their chest.[/quote]

DP. At around 31 seconds in, a male and then a female say, "We're the police." What do you make of that? Do ICE agents usually go around saying, "We're the police" or are they required to say, "We're ICE agents," or "We're with Immigration and Customs Enforcement" or the like? Can any LEO say "I/we're the police" if they're not actually police but a different type of LEO? Because the student was clearly scared and confused as to who they were--i.e., it wasn't immediately apparent to her that they were LEOs. Flashing a badge without saying who you are with and why you are detaining someone does not seem to be enough, especially to someone from another country. [/quote]

That seems fine to me.  If you’re dealing with someone who isn’t from this country and may not speak great english, it seems much clearer to initially say “police” rather than “immigration and customs enforcement.”

I’m not sure what you mean by law enforcement officers who aren’t police.  Federal agents are still police officers. [/quote]

Well, it doesn't seem fine to me and many others who were outraged by the video. Even the neighbor who shot the video is heard to say something like, "How do we know you're the police." To most people in the US and other countries (I have lived and travelled in many and speak four languages), when someone says the word "police," most people take it to mean local police, not special law enforcement agents of some kind. Local police wear a uniform and are easily identified in every country. Most people see them as someone to call upon for assistance if they fear for their safety--in other words, they see them as a source of protection. The student was clearly afraid of the six individuals who accosted her, not reassured by their presence. She also had no clue why they were taking her since she had not done anything wrong. It's not like she just left a store where she had shoplifted some items.

I think we're at a point in this country with Stephen Miller's directive for 3,000 ICE arrests a day and given the high visibility of these actions via social media posts that there should be a clear protocol followed by all ICE officers and those deputized to serve as ICE officers about how to conduct ICE arrests in a way that makes it immediately clear who they are and what they're doing. [/quote]

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