FBI raids UMICH students protesting for Palestinian human rights/ending genocide without warrants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree most American don't care but if you protest against Israel you get deported. Not true for other protests.

This is foreign policy that impacts americans. Many are dual citizens.

We never had a huge “pro south african” or pro vietnam or pro north korea movement. those protests were largely main stream. Vietnam was about the draft and US citizens. Other campus protests were about lives lost in war.

This one is different. These protests comes of the heals of a terrorist attack against israel. I mean, it’s different.

The US is taking a stance that blocking buildings in a way that feels threatening to American students is not okay

Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to tell you, but most Americans don't really care about students who come here from other countries and choose to engage in protests of any nature. Just be glad you're here, count your blessings, and get the education and degree desired. Then return to your country and protest.

The US constitution, which you apparently know little about, has repeatedly affirmed that constitutional rights, including those in the First Amendment, apply to all "persons" within the U.S., not just "citizens."

So foreign visitors to our country, including students, absolutely have the right to protest unless it involves breaking specific laws.

That's all fine and well. I'm just saying what most Americans are thinking about the protestors and what I would do if studying in another country.

None of that matters. Why don't you get that? They have the RIGHT. People do plenty of things I wouldn't. That doesn't mean the government should start trampling on people's rights.

That's what freedom IS. It's the right to do what you want, even if other people disagree, so long as you aren't hurting anyone. If they broke the law while protesting, charge them with a crime. Otherwise, they have the right to protest.

Well, they were hurting other students by verbally harassing and physically preventing moving around the campus, so...

Hurt fees fees don't justify trampling on people's rights. Protest is meant to be inconvenient.

No it absolutely is not. Gathering in the town square to voice your concerns and lift up signs isn’t inconvenient. Write a letter to the newspaper - definitely not inconvenient.

Show up in the streets blocking traffic and holding drivers hostage for example, and you are committing a crime and deserve consequences.

The PP is a radical and doesn't care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree most American don't care but if you protest against Israel you get deported. Not true for other protests.

This is foreign policy that impacts americans. Many are dual citizens.

We never had a huge “pro south african” or pro vietnam or pro north korea movement. those protests were largely main stream. Vietnam was about the draft and US citizens. Other campus protests were about lives lost in war.

This one is different. These protests comes of the heals of a terrorist attack against israel. I mean, it’s different.

The US is taking a stance that blocking buildings in a way that feels threatening to American students is not okay

Feelings? Feelings?

We’re having our country torn apart over feelings? About a foreign nation, no less?

Forgive me, I guess, but F right the F off if you think feelings about ANYTHING related to a foreign nation justify this turmoil HERE, in America.

Also, in case anyone is confused in the matter, our foreign policy is set by people, most of whom are deeply flawed men (in the best of times), oftentimes operating under a massive cloud of conflicts of interest. And as this current admin has clearly proven in short order, sanity is not a prereq.

So don’t try to promote this bullshit that our foreign policy is ordained by god, above reproach, and that to oppose it is to attack some natural order of things.

Removing feelings: anyone here on a Visa is a guest. As a guest they are welcome here at the pleasure of the government.

You don’t the rules in place to keep your Visa? Fine you get to leave. Forcibly if necessary.

Because again; THEY ARE GUESTS.

Can you show me where the US constitution says that if you’re a guest in the US, the same freedoms don’t apply to you? I’ll wait.

Foreign nationals are granted rights, but holding a visa comes with specific rules that must be followed. Violating these rules can lead to the revocation of the visa. Protesting, especially in an effort to demand changes in the host country, is not advisable, as maintaining our national interest means we cannot allow foreign agitators to remain.

Any crime, no matter how minor, can also lead to visa cancellation. For example, an individual who vandalized trucks with graffiti was removed. It is essential to enforce a zero-tolerance policy for crime, violence, and support for terrorist organizations.

Remember, they are guests in this country.

Israel is a foreign country. Israel and Israelis have no rights in this country. Why should they be allowed to attack Americans citizens?

If you have a religious homeland that is country you are just a temporary resident to this country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree most American don't care but if you protest against Israel you get deported. Not true for other protests.

This is foreign policy that impacts americans. Many are dual citizens.

We never had a huge “pro south african” or pro vietnam or pro north korea movement. those protests were largely main stream. Vietnam was about the draft and US citizens. Other campus protests were about lives lost in war.

This one is different. These protests comes of the heals of a terrorist attack against israel. I mean, it’s different.

The US is taking a stance that blocking buildings in a way that feels threatening to American students is not okay

Feelings? Feelings?

We’re having our country torn apart over feelings? About a foreign nation, no less?

Forgive me, I guess, but F right the F off if you think feelings about ANYTHING related to a foreign nation justify this turmoil HERE, in America.

Also, in case anyone is confused in the matter, our foreign policy is set by people, most of whom are deeply flawed men (in the best of times), oftentimes operating under a massive cloud of conflicts of interest. And as this current admin has clearly proven in short order, sanity is not a prereq.

So don’t try to promote this bullshit that our foreign policy is ordained by god, above reproach, and that to oppose it is to attack some natural order of things.

Removing feelings: anyone here on a Visa is a guest. As a guest they are welcome here at the pleasure of the government.

You don’t the rules in place to keep your Visa? Fine you get to leave. Forcibly if necessary.

Because again; THEY ARE GUESTS.

Can you show me where the US constitution says that if you’re a guest in the US, the same freedoms don’t apply to you? I’ll wait.

Foreign nationals are granted rights, but holding a visa comes with specific rules that must be followed. Violating these rules can lead to the revocation of the visa. Protesting, especially in an effort to demand changes in the host country, is not advisable, as maintaining our national interest means we cannot allow foreign agitators to remain.

Any crime, no matter how minor, can also lead to visa cancellation. For example, an individual who vandalized trucks with graffiti was removed. It is essential to enforce a zero-tolerance policy for crime, violence, and support for terrorist organizations.

Remember, they are guests in this country.

Israel is a foreign country. Israel and Israelis have no rights in this country. Why should they be allowed to attack Americans citizens?

If you have a religious homeland that is country you are just a temporary resident to this country.

You’re confused. It’s Hamas that is currently holding an American citizen hostage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This Ann Arbor administrator’s car and house was damaged. The evidence points to this group of people. Property damage to someone’s home and vehicle is not acceptable

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2024/12/university-of-michigan-regents-home-vandalized-with-mason-jars-pro-palestine-slogan.html?outputType=amp

Multiple examples of criminal behavior by these miscreants. Of course the leftist radicals here don’t think there is anything wrong with illegal behavior as long as it’s targeted at certain groups that aren’t to their liking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ann Arbor administrator’s car and house was damaged. The evidence points to this group of people. Property damage to someone’s home and vehicle is not acceptable

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2024/12/university-of-michigan-regents-home-vandalized-with-mason-jars-pro-palestine-slogan.html?outputType=amp

Multiple examples of criminal behavior by these miscreants. Of course the leftist radicals here don’t think there is anything wrong with illegal behavior as long as it’s targeted at certain groups that aren’t to their liking.

There are no examples. This is all made up by you right wing Zionists. Israel is a foreign country operating on US soil. It is time for sanctions on Israel.

[Anonymous]

This reminds me of how protestors of South African apartheid were similarly treated by police around universities across the country. They used similar tactics of charging petty crimes to get protestors arrested.

I can see why pro-Israelis are very afraid of these protests as it was a key part to raising awareness of South African apartheid. Most people probably don't even realize that Israel is an apartheid country.

[Anonymous]

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Radical left-wing Donald Trump is going soft on immigration!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ann Arbor administrator’s car and house was damaged. The evidence points to this group of people. Property damage to someone’s home and vehicle is not acceptable

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2024/12/university-of-michigan-regents-home-vandalized-with-mason-jars-pro-palestine-slogan.html?outputType=amp

Multiple examples of criminal behavior by these miscreants. Of course the leftist radicals here don’t think there is anything wrong with illegal behavior as long as it’s targeted at certain groups that aren’t to their liking.

There are no examples. This is all made up by you right wing Zionists. Israel is a foreign country operating on US soil. It is time for sanctions on Israel.

BS. Attacks on Jewish Regent’s home in Huntington Woods. Attacks on his business office in Southfield. Attacks on a home of another Regent in Ann Arbr. Some of us don’t live in the DMV. There is a world that exists way outside of the beltway. Instead of insulting JEWISH folks, try doing a bit of research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how protestors of South African apartheid were similarly treated by police around universities across the country. They used similar tactics of charging petty crimes to get protestors arrested.

I can see why pro-Israelis are very afraid of these protests as it was a key part to raising awareness of South African apartheid. Most people probably don't even realize that Israel is an apartheid country.

You are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

I do not understand why we are so beholden to Israel.

Jews have every right to live freely and safely everywhere, but Israel should never have been created. It was a horrible project that is clearly failing, with an insanely horrible human rights record. The support is bewildering. I know it's nose-diving i support from Americans, but why do our politicians have more loyalty to Israel, than Americans? It's insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ann Arbor administrator’s car and house was damaged. The evidence points to this group of people. Property damage to someone’s home and vehicle is not acceptable

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2024/12/university-of-michigan-regents-home-vandalized-with-mason-jars-pro-palestine-slogan.html?outputType=amp

Multiple examples of criminal behavior by these miscreants. Of course the leftist radicals here don’t think there is anything wrong with illegal behavior as long as it’s targeted at certain groups that aren’t to their liking.

There are no examples. This is all made up by you right wing Zionists. Israel is a foreign country operating on US soil. It is time for sanctions on Israel.

BS. Attacks on Jewish Regent’s home in Huntington Woods. Attacks on his business office in Southfield. Attacks on a home of another Regent in Ann Arbr. Some of us don’t live in the DMV. There is a world that exists way outside of the beltway. Instead of insulting JEWISH folks, try doing a bit of research.

DP you Israelis oppress, attack, kill, rape, steal land from innocent Palestinians, Iranian, Muslim, etc. If you as an Israeli or Jew hold all Palestinian, Iranian, Muslim, etc responsible for the actions of a group fighting Israel, why should they not do as you do and hold all Israelis and Jews responsible for Israel’s actions?

I do not see the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of how protestors of South African apartheid were similarly treated by police around universities across the country. They used similar tactics of charging petty crimes to get protestors arrested.

I can see why pro-Israelis are very afraid of these protests as it was a key part to raising awareness of South African apartheid. Most people probably don't even realize that Israel is an apartheid country.

You are ridiculous.

Yeah, you are right about it being a ridiculous comparison. Israeli apartheid is infinitely worse not up mention they're also committing a genocide and Holocaust at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This Ann Arbor administrator’s car and house was damaged. The evidence points to this group of people. Property damage to someone’s home and vehicle is not acceptable

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2024/12/university-of-michigan-regents-home-vandalized-with-mason-jars-pro-palestine-slogan.html?outputType=amp

Multiple examples of criminal behavior by these miscreants. Of course the leftist radicals here don’t think there is anything wrong with illegal behavior as long as it’s targeted at certain groups that aren’t to their liking.

There are no examples. This is all made up by you right wing Zionists. Israel is a foreign country operating on US soil. It is time for sanctions on Israel.

BS. Attacks on Jewish Regent’s home in Huntington Woods. Attacks on his business office in Southfield. Attacks on a home of another Regent in Ann Arbr. Some of us don’t live in the DMV. There is a world that exists way outside of the beltway. Instead of insulting JEWISH folks, try doing a bit of research.

DP you Israelis oppress, attack, kill, rape, steal land from innocent Palestinians, Iranian, Muslim, etc. If you as an Israeli or Jew hold all Palestinian, Iranian, Muslim, etc responsible for the actions of a group fighting Israel, why should they not do as you do and hold all Israelis and Jews responsible for Israel’s actions?

I do not see the difference.

Classic example of, “turnspeak.”