DEI order and mcps

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

Disagree. Differentiation would be better for everyone, particularly teachers. Teachers have too many levels to teach now and it benefits no one.

Why do they need to send kids to a different school to do that?

We need to support differentiation in all forms and stop rationing education.

There should be flexible ability grouping (not tracking) at local schools, in all grades, including elementary.

We should still have magnet programs where the top students (rather through brilliant intelligence/high IQ or motivation/hard work) can challenge themselves as much as they wish. We should add seats to the magnet program to accommodate more students.

We have a great working system in high schools where there are great magnet programs (that also need more seats), but each high school also offers AP/IB classes, honors classes, grade-level classes, and remedial classes. It isn’t a choice of either/or, students should have the option to pursue as much education as they want.

Not all HS offer a lot of AP classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

Disagree. Differentiation would be better for everyone, particularly teachers. Teachers have too many levels to teach now and it benefits no one.

Why do they need to send kids to a different school to do that?

We need to support differentiation in all forms and stop rationing education.

There should be flexible ability grouping (not tracking) at local schools, in all grades, including elementary.

We should still have magnet programs where the top students (rather through brilliant intelligence/high IQ or motivation/hard work) can challenge themselves as much as they wish. We should add seats to the magnet program to accommodate more students.

We have a great working system in high schools where there are great magnet programs (that also need more seats), but each high school also offers AP/IB classes, honors classes, grade-level classes, and remedial classes. It isn’t a choice of either/or, students should have the option to pursue as much education as they want.

This. Minus the magnet mishegas.

Yeah, I just don’t see the need for magnets, at least or especially at the elementary level. All schools have highly able kids. I say this as someone whose kids went to a title I elementary. There are extremely bright/gifted, whatever you want to call them, kids at all schools and income levels, not just among kids whose parents have phds or can afford prepping (side note, these parents also exist at title I schools).

100% agree mcps should stop rationing their best programs.

[Anonymous]

nothing should stop a kid from getting the academic level that is needed for them.
nothing.

advanced-level instruction (magnet-equal, and no, not the sham "advanced" courses like HIGH and AIM) for those with a large cohort at their home school

magnets are ONLY for those who have little-to-no gifted cohort at home school. there must not be any difference between the magnet school and the classes offered at a regular school.

all students who need it get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is excellent. MCPS should get rid of its DEI programs. Removing the lottery for magnet programs would be a wonderful start.

OMG, I thought I had written this! The lottery should be removed so that 99 percentile kids can attend the program.

Nah, getting rid of DEI would mean getting rid of magnet programs completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

Disagree. Differentiation would be better for everyone, particularly teachers. Teachers have too many levels to teach now and it benefits no one.

Why do they need to send kids to a different school to do that?

We need to support differentiation in all forms and stop rationing education.

There should be flexible ability grouping (not tracking) at local schools, in all grades, including elementary.

We should still have magnet programs where the top students (rather through brilliant intelligence/high IQ or motivation/hard work) can challenge themselves as much as they wish. We should add seats to the magnet program to accommodate more students.

We have a great working system in high schools where there are great magnet programs (that also need more seats), but each high school also offers AP/IB classes, honors classes, grade-level classes, and remedial classes. It isn’t a choice of either/or, students should have the option to pursue as much education as they want.

This. Minus the magnet mishegas.

Yeah, I just don’t see the need for magnets, at least or especially at the elementary level. All schools have highly able kids. I say this as someone whose kids went to a title I elementary. There are extremely bright/gifted, whatever you want to call them, kids at all schools and income levels, not just among kids whose parents have phds or can afford prepping (side note, these parents also exist at title I schools).

100% agree mcps should stop rationing their best programs.

I agree but as someone who also attends a title 1 school, my kids are not learning at grade level. They just can’t because the rest of the class is so behind. Differentiation or a magnet school would be great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is excellent. MCPS should get rid of its DEI programs. Removing the lottery for magnet programs would be a wonderful start.

OMG, I thought I had written this! The lottery should be removed so that 99 percentile kids can attend the program.

Nah, getting rid of DEI would mean getting rid of magnet programs completely.

Magnets existed before woke DEI BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is excellent. MCPS should get rid of its DEI programs. Removing the lottery for magnet programs would be a wonderful start.

OMG, I thought I had written this! The lottery should be removed so that 99 percentile kids can attend the program.

Nah, getting rid of DEI would mean getting rid of magnet programs completely.

Magnets existed before woke DEI BS.

Magnets were literally designed as a desegregation tool in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

Disagree. Differentiation would be better for everyone, particularly teachers. Teachers have too many levels to teach now and it benefits no one.

Why do they need to send kids to a different school to do that?

We need to support differentiation in all forms and stop rationing education.

There should be flexible ability grouping (not tracking) at local schools, in all grades, including elementary.

We should still have magnet programs where the top students (rather through brilliant intelligence/high IQ or motivation/hard work) can challenge themselves as much as they wish. We should add seats to the magnet program to accommodate more students.

We have a great working system in high schools where there are great magnet programs (that also need more seats), but each high school also offers AP/IB classes, honors classes, grade-level classes, and remedial classes. It isn’t a choice of either/or, students should have the option to pursue as much education as they want.

This. Minus the magnet mishegas.

Yeah, I just don’t see the need for magnets, at least or especially at the elementary level. All schools have highly able kids. I say this as someone whose kids went to a title I elementary. There are extremely bright/gifted, whatever you want to call them, kids at all schools and income levels, not just among kids whose parents have phds or can afford prepping (side note, these parents also exist at title I schools).

100% agree mcps should stop rationing their best programs.

I agree but as someone who also attends a title 1 school, my kids are not learning at grade level. They just can’t because the rest of the class is so behind. Differentiation or a magnet school would be great.

Your kid might not be picked because it’s lottery. It’s not based on how advanced the kids are. So lottery magnet is such a joke. Don’t expect MCPS to enrich your kids.

[Anonymous]

Which magnets have a lottery? My understanding was that the high school ones did not. Is it just elementary CES?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is excellent. MCPS should get rid of its DEI programs. Removing the lottery for magnet programs would be a wonderful start.

The lottery is exactly what protects them drom accusations of DEI. It is random. They will double down on it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

+1
They should meet needs at local schools through a class there. If there are not enough kids to make a gifted class, then offer a cosa to a school that can meet their needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

Disagree. Differentiation would be better for everyone, particularly teachers. Teachers have too many levels to teach now and it benefits no one.

Why do they need to send kids to a different school to do that?

We need to support differentiation in all forms and stop rationing education.

There should be flexible ability grouping (not tracking) at local schools, in all grades, including elementary.

We should still have magnet programs where the top students (rather through brilliant intelligence/high IQ or motivation/hard work) can challenge themselves as much as they wish. We should add seats to the magnet program to accommodate more students.

We have a great working system in high schools where there are great magnet programs (that also need more seats), but each high school also offers AP/IB classes, honors classes, grade-level classes, and remedial classes. It isn’t a choice of either/or, students should have the option to pursue as much education as they want.

High schools are not offering honors or remedial classes in English. Everyone takes honors in most schools, so it is effectively grade level. And it’s not even really grade level. The expectations are so low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which magnets have a lottery? My understanding was that the high school ones did not. Is it just elementary CES?

The criteria-based MS magnets do as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

+1
They should meet needs at local schools through a class there. If there are not enough kids to make a gifted class, then offer a cosa to a school that can meet their needs.

I agree with this 100%. Taking the smartest kids out of their local schools and concentrating them in just a few places has really hurt a lot of neighborhood schools. Instead of moving the kids, let’s bring the resources to them. Supporting gifted students where they already are not only helps them succeed, but it also makes the whole school stronger—more challenging classes, better teacher development, and a more well-rounded environment for everyone. They should do this from elementary school through high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should get rid of the magnets completely and stop pulling the smart kids out of their local schools, especially for elem age.

+1
They should meet needs at local schools through a class there. If there are not enough kids to make a gifted class, then offer a cosa to a school that can meet their needs.

I agree with this 100%. Taking the smartest kids out of their local schools and concentrating them in just a few places has really hurt a lot of neighborhood schools. Instead of moving the kids, let’s bring the resources to them. Supporting gifted students where they already are not only helps them succeed, but it also makes the whole school stronger—more challenging classes, better teacher development, and a more well-rounded environment for everyone. They should do this from elementary school through high school.

Theoretically, could this dissolve the DCC? (as a high school DCC teacher, I think a lot of benefits would come from going back to neighborhood schools)