DEI order and mcps

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

Interesting, they’ve tried to do this just this by having ELC in every school. How’s that going?

ELC will not be offered next year. It is going to be CKLA + enrichment. But even when it was ELC, it was not the same as CES programming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

Interesting, they’ve tried to do this just this by having ELC in every school. How’s that going?

ELC will not be offered next year. It is going to be CKLA + enrichment. But even when it was ELC, it was not the same as CES programming.

Therefore the standards are getting lowered and lowered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

MCPS has attempted to provide advanced courses at every school AND maintain the magnets - currently both are theoretically happening. This was a part of the change with the lottery. All students who qualified for the lottery were supposed to be in at least some advanced classes. Agree that it doesn't seem all are implementing it well, but that is the current design.

The home classes are not the magnet classes. HIGH, for example, is really nothing like what is covered at Eastern. And there are no enriched/accelerated/cohorted English and Science classes.

Exactly. And therefore there is no differentiation (and not the fault of the teachers).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

Isn't income based still being "equitable". This is why DEI is being attacked because people don't understand equity helps all, not just specific races. Equity also means hearing aids, text to speech, accommodations, FARMS, interpreters etc...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

Isn't income based still being "equitable". This is why DEI is being attacked because people don't understand equity helps all, not just specific races. Equity also means hearing aids, text to speech, accommodations, FARMS, interpreters etc...

Yes, but let's be honest, DEI in MCPS mostly focuses on URM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

Isn't income based still being "equitable". This is why DEI is being attacked because people don't understand equity helps all, not just specific races. Equity also means hearing aids, text to speech, accommodations, FARMS, interpreters etc...

Yes, but let's be honest, DEI in MCPS mostly focuses on URM.

...been attending trainings for years now on MCPS' identified 5 focus groups:
Non-FARMS Black or African American Non-FARMS Hispanic/Latino
FARMS White/Asian/All Other Student Groups
FARMS Black or African American
FARMS Hispanic/Latino

Why? Because the data shows these groups have the largest achievement gaps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

Isn't income based still being "equitable". This is why DEI is being attacked because people don't understand equity helps all, not just specific races. Equity also means hearing aids, text to speech, accommodations, FARMS, interpreters etc...

Yes, but let's be honest, DEI in MCPS mostly focuses on URM.

...been attending trainings for years now on MCPS' identified 5 focus groups:
Non-FARMS Black or African American Non-FARMS Hispanic/Latino
FARMS White/Asian/All Other Student Groups
FARMS Black or African American
FARMS Hispanic/Latino

Why? Because the data shows these groups have the largest achievement gaps.

That's correct. Those groups have demonstrated the most need for years. And MCPS, supposedly, has directed more resources and supports to these focus groups.

And yet, we have not seen substantial gains or improvements for these focus groups.

So while I fully support DEI in the abstract and theoretical, it's very fair to ask: Is it working? Because I think the data also shows that DEI programs to date have not accomplished their stated goals for the groups they purport to uphold and support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And isn’t MCPS already cash strapped and crying about the budget? I hope they don’t put more funds at risk.

+1 just call programs something income based. Get rid of the DEI label which has negative connotations now.

Income based is better. The idea is to help people based on their objective economic needs not just race.

Isn't income based still being "equitable". This is why DEI is being attacked because people don't understand equity helps all, not just specific races. Equity also means hearing aids, text to speech, accommodations, FARMS, interpreters etc...

Yes, but let's be honest, DEI in MCPS mostly focuses on URM.

...been attending trainings for years now on MCPS' identified 5 focus groups:
Non-FARMS Black or African American Non-FARMS Hispanic/Latino
FARMS White/Asian/All Other Student Groups
FARMS Black or African American
FARMS Hispanic/Latino

Why? Because the data shows these groups have the largest achievement gaps.

That's correct. Those groups have demonstrated the most need for years. And MCPS, supposedly, has directed more resources and supports to these focus groups.

And yet, we have not seen substantial gains or improvements for these focus groups.

So while I fully support DEI in the abstract and theoretical, it's very fair to ask: Is it working? Because I think the data also shows that DEI programs to date have not accomplished their stated goals for the groups they purport to uphold and support.

+1 I was glad to hear Taylor will be changing the grading policy, and addressing grade inflation, which wasn't helping the students in the long term.

[Anonymous]

It's not doing tan people any favors inflating their grades and giving false dishonest feedback bc the teacher is scared to lose their job by crooked admin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

Interesting, they’ve tried to do this just this by having ELC in every school. How’s that going?

ELC will not be offered next year. It is going to be CKLA + enrichment. But even when it was ELC, it was not the same as CES programming.

Yes, but with the lottery CES progrramming isn't CES programming anymore either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

Interesting, they’ve tried to do this just this by having ELC in every school. How’s that going?

ELC will not be offered next year. It is going to be CKLA + enrichment. But even when it was ELC, it was not the same as CES programming.

Yes, but with the lottery CES progrramming isn't CES programming anymore either.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no point to elementary CES at this point. It used to be for kids whose needs could not be met in the homeroom class, but the lottery has taken that away. If they leave a kid who is 95th percentile, and take one that is 85th percentile, then how are we going to meet the needs of the 95th percentile kid- especially when they’ve taken away other high achieving kids? I work in title 1 and wish that the program was ended at this point.

I agree. They should get rid of them and just offer an advanced class in each home school. It's just so watered down now.

Interesting, they’ve tried to do this just this by having ELC in every school. How’s that going?

ELC will not be offered next year. It is going to be CKLA + enrichment. But even when it was ELC, it was not the same as CES programming.

Yes, but with the lottery CES progrramming isn't CES programming anymore either.

+1

It's still superior to what is offered in home schools. I do not blame people who have bright but not gifted students for doing all they can to prepare students for MAP tests in the hopes that they get a spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given this new 10 day deadline, how do people think this will play out in mcps?

I think like half the positions at the Central Office are DEI related. Are they going to cut any of this staff now that this is illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given this new 10 day deadline, how do people think this will play out in mcps?

I think like half the positions at the Central Office are DEI related. Are they going to cut any of this staff now that this is illegal?

Lol