Hamas-Israel Ceasefire is over

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Israel has been bombing Gaza long before they had hostages. They want their land and will stop at nothing to get it. They thrive off of killing innocent children and know they can get away with it.

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The Israeli prime minister indicated he was open to more talks with Hamas, but said they would take place “under fire.” The assault in Gaza overnight Tuesday killed some 400 people, local officials said.

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https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-846558#google_vignette
Israel, with Trump's full backing, escalates pressure on Hamas with fresh strikes - analysis
As mediators blitz through attempt to bring about an agreement for the release of additional hostages, the question remains: If this fails, what comes next?

Israel's wave of a large-scale attacks on Hamas in Gaza on Monday night were neither a full-scale war nor a specific threat of a ground operation, but an action aimed at convincing Hamas to agree to the framework presented in recent days by US President Donald Trump's administration.

Jerusalem did not hide its intent to launch a broad wave of airstrikes on Gaza from the United States. However, “there was no need for a green light because Trump gave us the option to open the gates of hell,” an Israeli source told The Jerusalem Post.

“Minister Ron Dermer updated senior members of the Trump administration that Israel would begin an aerial assault on Gaza to try to pressure Hamas to change its demands in the hostage deal,” the source said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has been bombing Gaza long before they had hostages. They want their land and will stop at nothing to get it. They thrive off of killing innocent children and know they can get away with it.

IDF incursions have always been responses to suppress or prevent Hamas terror activity, but recognizing that makes it harder to paint Israel as the aggressor, doesn't it? And yes, they will stop at nothing to protect their land, from Hamas, Hezbollah, and from anyone else who thinks they can take it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

When Israel loses which it will I bet you will pull your hair out if someone said that.

I'm not holding my breath waiting for a nuclear power with a modern military to lose to Hamas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The IDF and Shin Bet have announced the demise of Essam al-Da'alis, head of the Hamas government and responsible for the Hamas terror regime in the Gaza Strip. It also appears that the heads of Hamas' internal security forces and their "Minister of Justice" were also eliminated.

Looks like progress is being made in a different direction since Hamas refused to extend the ceasefire by releasing hostages.

Wow never heard that before. What makes you think Israel is telling the truth? They never have in the past.

You're free to make up you own "news", as always, or you can wait for signs of life from the dead to prove the widespread reporting wrong. Don't hold your breath, though.

[Anonymous]

Wonder how many more US citizens will be rounded up and disappeared in the US for a Jewish home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IDF and Shin Bet have announced the demise of Essam al-Da'alis, head of the Hamas government and responsible for the Hamas terror regime in the Gaza Strip. It also appears that the heads of Hamas' internal security forces and their "Minister of Justice" were also eliminated.

Looks like progress is being made in a different direction since Hamas refused to extend the ceasefire by releasing hostages.

Wow never heard that before. What makes you think Israel is telling the truth? They never have in the past.

You're free to make up you own "news", as always, or you can wait for signs of life from the dead to prove the widespread reporting wrong. Don't hold your breath, though.

You mean like the rapes? That never really work out for you did it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

The same laws that declared "never again" decided land cannot be acquired by force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has been bombing Gaza long before they had hostages. They want their land and will stop at nothing to get it. They thrive off of killing innocent children and know they can get away with it.

IDF incursions have always been responses to suppress or prevent Hamas terror activity, but recognizing that makes it harder to paint Israel as the aggressor, doesn't it? And yes, they will stop at nothing to protect their land, from Hamas, Hezbollah, and from anyone else who thinks they can take it.

Really so the videos out there of them snipping children playing on the beach were in response to what exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is an entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

You call palestinians terrorists but many in the world see them as legitimately fighting for their freedom. Their land was stolen in 1948. Their people were massacred and exiled. Some “lucky” ones were crammed into refugee camps and narrow strips of land (aka Gaza) under brutal Israeli occupation. None of this started on Oct 7th and you know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is an entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

You keep saying that, but no amount of wishing will make it true. How many thousands of lives is enough retribution for a single hostage? We’re like thousands to one at this point.

However many it takes until they're released is the answer. The power to stop the killing is within Hamas' control. They just choose to keep trying to extort concessions at the expense of their own people, whom they apparently see as completely expendable. If they don't value those lives, why should anyone else?

Oh please, as though you ever cared about a single Palestinian life. Tens of thousands of Gaza children killed (and many bodies still rotting under the rubble) and yet you think Israeli actions are justified. Sick.

[Anonymous]

I don't know how anyone can say that Israel's slaughter-fest has remotely anything to do with the hostages. Netanyahu knows what he'd have to do to get additional hostages released - he just doesn't care. It's not his goal. It was never his goal.

[Anonymous]

The reason people call Zionism a Nazi ideology is because it is. The Nazi's supported Zionism before they were embroiled in a war of civilizations. Zionism and Naziism are the same belief structure. You just need to replace the word German with the word Jew. It's that simple.

There's a reason that Jews are the leading voices against Zionism in the world, and it is because they were victims of the greatest crime humans ever committed, and they recognize that the state of Israel is trying to commit those same crimes again, but in their name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why Palestinians continue to support Hamas. The Hamas government has brought forth nothing but destruction to Gaza. How has taking all these hostages helped Palestinians? I understand they are getting Hamas militants and terrorists back for these hostages. But how does that help average Palestinians? Hamas has brought nothing but misery. I will never understand why people support them.

Have you ever heard of the West Bank? Hamas is banned from even entering there. That’s a Palestinian state with the Palestinian president who everyone seemingly ignores