Hamas-Israel Ceasefire is over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hamas never had any intention to return most of the remaining hostages. That was clear to anyone with a brain. They are either lost or long dead. I’m frankly shocked they had as many to return as they did.

They have been returning some dead hostages. Dead hostages have been part of the ceasefires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On what planet does anyone thing Israel or Netanhitler ever cared about hostages?!

Oh what planet do people thing Hamas cares about Palestinians?

Hamas is to blame for the end of the cease fire for not releasing the hostages. If the hostages are dead they need to just admit that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamas never had any intention to return most of the remaining hostages. That was clear to anyone with a brain. They are either lost or long dead. I’m frankly shocked they had as many to return as they did.

They have been returning some dead hostages. Dead hostages have been part of the ceasefires.

They are of lower value though. Sorry but it's true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

Putin? Is that you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is a entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

Not yet. We'll see how things play out now that the U.S. is more fully supporting Israel against Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

Putin? Is that you?

Moron. Ukraine didn't launch any attack on Russia; there's no equivalence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is an entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

You keep saying that, but no amount of wishing will make it true. How many thousands of lives is enough retribution for a single hostage? We’re like thousands to one at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is an entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

Even Hitler thought that annihilation of Jews was righteous. Just because you think it’s righteous it doesn’t become righteous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has attacked Hamas claiming Hamas was not giving up hostages. I suspect most of the remaining ones have sadly been killed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14509389/Israel-confirms-firing-extensive-strikes-Hamas-Gaza.html

That was short. Shorter than Biden's ceasefire.

Trump flops again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

There's no "moral cover for genocide" because there is no genocide. There is a righteous war against terrorists and those who raise, doctrinate, support, and shelter them. It is an entirely legitimate war of self-defense, which could have ended in an instant if the hostages were released. Hostage-taking is not the conduct of people with any claim to morality or to immunity for the consequences of their activites.

You keep saying that, but no amount of wishing will make it true. How many thousands of lives is enough retribution for a single hostage? We’re like thousands to one at this point.

However many it takes until they're released is the answer. The power to stop the killing is within Hamas' control. They just choose to keep trying to extort concessions at the expense of their own people, whom they apparently see as completely expendable. If they don't value those lives, why should anyone else?

[Anonymous]

The IDF and Shin Bet have announced the demise of Essam al-Da'alis, head of the Hamas government and responsible for the Hamas terror regime in the Gaza Strip. It also appears that the heads of Hamas' internal security forces and their "Minister of Justice" were also eliminated.

Looks like progress is being made in a different direction since Hamas refused to extend the ceasefire by releasing hostages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

Borders often change after wars. Winners take territory to better defend themselves in the future. Losers lose territory from which they could launch attacks. Don't want to lose territory? Don't launch attacks from it.

When Israel loses which it will I bet you will pull your hair out if someone said that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IDF and Shin Bet have announced the demise of Essam al-Da'alis, head of the Hamas government and responsible for the Hamas terror regime in the Gaza Strip. It also appears that the heads of Hamas' internal security forces and their "Minister of Justice" were also eliminated.

Looks like progress is being made in a different direction since Hamas refused to extend the ceasefire by releasing hostages.

Wow never heard that before. What makes you think Israel is telling the truth? They never have in the past.