Hamas-Israel Ceasefire is over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why Palestinians continue to support Hamas. The Hamas government has brought forth nothing but destruction to Gaza. How has taking all these hostages helped Palestinians? I understand they are getting Hamas militants and terrorists back for these hostages. But how does that help average Palestinians? Hamas has brought nothing but misery. I will never understand why people support them.

I am not convinced that they support Hamas.
What baffles me is why the Israelis continue to support Netanyahu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people are disgusting. All Israel cares about is its hostages. Gaza brought on its own destruction with October 7 and still continues to hold hostages. This war would be over if the hostages were returned, and anyone with any objectivity can see that.

Hamas accepted to release the hostages and move on to phase 2 but Israel refuses and wants to not end the war and release them to keep the killing going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

This is my view too. There is no mediation or winning with either. They will never have peace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people are disgusting. All Israel cares about is its hostages. Gaza brought on its own destruction with October 7 and still continues to hold hostages. This war would be over if the hostages were returned, and anyone with any objectivity can see that.

This couldn't be a more obvious fundamental truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are disgusting. All Israel cares about is its hostages. Gaza brought on its own destruction with October 7 and still continues to hold hostages. This war would be over if the hostages were returned, and anyone with any objectivity can see that.

This couldn't be a more obvious fundamental truth.

I don’t even think Bibi himself would say this is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t hostages getting killed when they attack Hamas? Seems like keeping the ceasefire going at least to get the remaining hostages was worth it. If I was a family Member, I’d be pissed

Israel has killed many hostages. There was a sad story about two moms who weee told their sons were killed by Hamas. They dug and dug and found out that wasn’t true. I think it was their sons who died from the bomb gas. While horribly, their sons were wrongly taken, but to add lies on top of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

This is how I feel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why Palestinians continue to support Hamas. The Hamas government has brought forth nothing but destruction to Gaza. How has taking all these hostages helped Palestinians? I understand they are getting Hamas militants and terrorists back for these hostages. But how does that help average Palestinians? Hamas has brought nothing but misery. I will never understand why people support them.

I am not convinced that they support Hamas.
What baffles me is why the Israelis continue to support Netanyahu

Netanyahu isn't that popular in Israel. He has been able to stay in power by forming a coalition government with far right parties. He must appease the far right to stay in power even though they only represent a minority of Israelis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why Palestinians continue to support Hamas. The Hamas government has brought forth nothing but destruction to Gaza. How has taking all these hostages helped Palestinians? I understand they are getting Hamas militants and terrorists back for these hostages. But how does that help average Palestinians? Hamas has brought nothing but misery. I will never understand why people support them.

I am not convinced that they support Hamas.
What baffles me is why the Israelis continue to support Netanyahu

Netanyahu isn't that popular in Israel. He has been able to stay in power by forming a coalition government with far right parties. He must appease the far right to stay in power even though they only represent a minority of Israelis.

This is a well-recognized weakness of parliamentary systems. If no single party often wins an outright majority, coalition governments become necessary, leading to disproportionate influence for smaller parties—especially those that hold the balance of power.

The U.S. two-party system was intentionally structured to discourage the kind of coalition-based governance seen in parliamentary systems, where small parties can hold disproportionate power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

This is my view too. There is no mediation or winning with either. They will never have peace.

Too much clowning around with religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel sucks.
Palestine sucks.
Hamas sucks the most, but they all suck.

They will continue killing each other until they are all dead. The idea that there are “good” and “bad” players in that war is an illusion.

You try to twist the facts so you can find a “good” side. You end up justifying children being murdered (“their parent was Hamas and using them as a human shield” OR “their parent is a colonizer who has abused Palestinians for decades, they’re acceptable collateral damage.”)

There’s no good side here.

Actually, there is. There is good and there is evil. The good side stays within its borders and doesn't launch terror raids into neighboring territory. The evil side engages in terror repeatedly over 75 or so years after losing a war they started. The evil side loses every time, but that doesn't make them less evil, and doesn't make the side which defeats them in self-defense any the less morally good.

Oh just stop. Israel doesn't stay within its borders. It doesn't believe in borders that are internationally recognized. Does it include Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, or the Syrian and Lebanese villages it is currently occupying?

Keep on calling it self-defense. The rest of the world doesn't believe that anymore.

+1. And I hate to say it, but any moral cover the Israelis had for genocide that may have been afforded by the Holocaust has long expired. Just hearing the rhetoric coming from them is making me sick. It’s clear they don’t think Gazans are humans. Wonder where I heard that crap before.

I don't even think that many Israelis are religiously observant. At this point it's just all about nationalism.

[Anonymous]

Another Trump failure.