Top 20 schools Dept. of Education left off the naughty list

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Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

Notre Dame had zero antisemitic incidents.

How many Jewish students attend ND?

In recent years, ND tends to attract right wingers who seem fine with dictators and genocide.

(I say this as someone who once loved ND and almost attended)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

Exactly. Politically motivated plus personal bias and revenge.

Thank you, Joe McCarthy.

Yes! Personal, petty vendetta leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Linda McMahon sent a warning letter to 60 schools this week about possible enforcement actions regarding antisemitism on campus. Only half of the schools in the top 20 USNWR rankings made the list. Missing were:

MIT
Dartmouth
Duke
Penn
Caltech
Chicago
UCLA
Rice
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt

To me, some of the schools listed above surprised me, namely MIT and UCLA as I recall reading about some very intense pro Palestine protests on campus where Jewish students felt unsafe. Did they already clean up their acts?

Here's the complete list of the 60 schools. https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-educations-office-civil-rights-sends-letters-60-universities-under-investigation-antisemitic-discrimination-and-harassment

American University
Arizona State University
Boston University
Brown University
California State University, Sacramento
Chapman University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Drexel University
Eastern Washington University
Emerson College
George Mason University
Harvard University
Illinois Wesleyan University
Indiana University, Bloomington
Johns Hopkins University
Lafayette College
Lehigh University
Middlebury College
Muhlenberg College
Northwestern University
Ohio State University
Pacific Lutheran University
Pomona College
Portland State University
Princeton University
Rutgers University
Rutgers University-Newark
Santa Monica College
Sarah Lawrence College
Stanford University
State University of New York Binghamton
State University of New York Rockland
State University of New York, Purchase
Swarthmore College
Temple University
The New School
Tufts University
Tulane University
Union College
University of California Davis
University of California San Diego
University of California Santa Barbara
University of California, Berkeley
University of Cincinnati
University of Hawaii at Manoa
University of Massachusetts Amherst
University of Michigan
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
University of North Carolina
University of South Florida
University of Southern California
University of Tampa
University of Tennessee
University of Virginia
University of Washington-Seattle
University of Wisconsin, Madison
Wellesley College
Whitman College
Yale University

I wouldn't get caught up in the details of which college did what. This admin doesn't care. This is all a pretext to exert control on colleges which he (and all would-be autocrats) see as a threat. If you kiss Trump's a-- and do what he says and don't challenge him, you'll get off this list. He's just doing this all as a threat and a warning for them to fall in line. I hope the colleges push back and get great legal counsel.

Trump is petty and vindictive and doesn't have integrity. He won the election, but he'll go down in history as the worst American president. In two short months, he's already destroyed our economy and tanked the markets. Our 529s are dropping value just like his grift stock Trump meme coin.

I fully agree but I'm also worried that Trump's heavy-handedness here will create a backlash against Jewish students who attend any of these institutions. Like we'll get blamed for Trump's actions even if we don't support this action of his.

So much is unprecedented these days so who really knows, but I’d be very surprised if this happens.

I can see a backslash against Republican students though. Rightfully so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

If that’s the case, how come Ohio State (Vance’s alma mater) is on the list?

Vance wrote in his book that OSU is a liberal hellhole and he took a double courseload to graduate as quickly as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all understand that Trump is just following Orban's playbook in Hungary, to take control of the country's universities, right?

The antisemitism thing is just an excuse. Please understand what's really going on - they're trying to take control of universities to indoctrinate students, as is done in authoritarian countries.

Here's JD Vance talking about it last year before he was Trump's running mate
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4673650-vance-doubles-down-on-praise-for-viktor-orbans-crackdown-on-universities-in-hungary/

I agree, and we need to push back!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

Notre Dame had zero antisemitic incidents.

I don’t think protests are antisemitic, so I think I agree w you. But there were protests in 2023 and 2024 and arrests at Notre Dame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

If that’s the case, how come Ohio State (Vance’s alma mater) is on the list?

Vance wrote in his book that OSU is a liberal hellhole and he took a double courseload to graduate as quickly as possible.

vance sounds charming. vance also complained that he didn't fit in with anyone socially at yale so he had to hang with a pack of social rejects (which he includes his wife usha in and also a transgender friend that is no longer on speaking terms with vance) as they were the only ones who would hang out with him. now none of vance's crew of misfits will acnknowledge him except for his wife obviously whose stuck with him for life. she got instructions after she quit her job to return to breeding because vance said he wants even more kids now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

Notre Dame had zero antisemitic incidents.

How many Jewish students attend ND?

In recent years, ND tends to attract right wingers who seem fine with dictators and genocide.

(I say this as someone who once loved ND and almost attended)

What is your basis for your second sentence? I don't think that is true from my experience and knowing kids who attend. Please don't tell me you are taking the position of one prominent graduate and assuming everyone is just like that person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s based on the number of complaints of antisemitism that were filed with the justice department at each school

Correct.

Northwestern was a mess last year, but they cleaned up their act VERY quickly this summer, including requiring antisemitism training of their students both online prior to coming to campus, and in person the first week back.

Northwestern did it prior to Trump coming to office, when Kamala had that big bump, so what they did to fix the issues was not performative to appease the new administration.

I am also surprised that MIT is not on the list, unless the students there did not lodge formal OCR complaints.

Agree. People are getting distracted here. His DOJ was focused on the antisemitism piece a year ago when Dems ignored it. I'm a Harris voter and was disgusted by what happened on college campuses.

I'm ok with this. Get rid of antisemitism. It has NO place at a university. And if that means isolating the Critical race theory programs (and their professors) where a lot of this hate hides, so be it.
https://mckinneylaw.iu.edu/events/_docs/T-3B_Shalev.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The list does seem random. My kid is at AU, and feels they've done a good job keeping a tight lid on protests (small and not disruptive). Admin was very clear they would not make concesssions to the protestors, eg divestment.

There have been a number of antisemitic incidents, but they were condemned in no uncertain terms and disciplinary action promised.
https://www.american.edu/president/announcements/october-20-2023.cfm

Here is the ADL report card. Not perfect, but surprised they were seen to rise to the level of the "list."
https://www.adl.org/campus-antisemitism-report-card/american-university

Agree - AU was pretty balanced on free speech but not tolerating antisemitism. I thought they did a great job. I don't think they belong on this list. It makes me feel think, like so many haphazard actions going on right now, that there's some randomness and a lack of thoughtfulness. Just aiming at anyone the trump administration dislikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is a kangaroo presidency. I don't take anything they do seriously.

they just want to undermine and control all of our institutions, especially our universities.

Your first and third sentences are correct which is why your second one is not. This should be taken very seriously

Attacking academia is a classic move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn has had far more incidents of antisemitism than many schools on the list. But I guess since orange man went there, it’s okay.

I think it's because they were tied to policies under the former president, who resigned. Not sure what campus climate is like now.

no. other colleges had people resign, even presidents.

this list is typical for this admin: a list was made, was shown around a table and everyone took their favorite school off for no real reason other than alumni status or they like the football team or whatever. totally random and subjective and whatever the fat white guys thought in the moment. the conversations went like this:

"take notre dame off, my son is there."
"done. anyone else?"
"can I add a school? I heard about this one thing on Joe Rogan and it's just a woke bs"
"of course. add, remove, whatever you want"

If that’s the case, how come Ohio State (Vance’s alma mater) is on the list?

Vance wrote in his book that OSU is a liberal hellhole and he took a double courseload to graduate as quickly as possible.

If you can't find anyone to hang out with at a 60,000 person school, that's a user error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list does seem random. My kid is at AU, and feels they've done a good job keeping a tight lid on protests (small and not disruptive). Admin was very clear they would not make concesssions to the protestors, eg divestment.

There have been a number of antisemitic incidents, but they were condemned in no uncertain terms and disciplinary action promised.
https://www.american.edu/president/announcements/october-20-2023.cfm

Here is the ADL report card. Not perfect, but surprised they were seen to rise to the level of the "list."
https://www.adl.org/campus-antisemitism-report-card/american-university

Agree - AU was pretty balanced on free speech but not tolerating antisemitism. I thought they did a great job. I don't think they belong on this list. It makes me feel think, like so many haphazard actions going on right now, that there's some randomness and a lack of thoughtfulness. Just aiming at anyone the trump administration dislikes.

+100 especially surprising given the absence of GW, which was the epicenter of student protests in DC

[Anonymous]

"Relentless antisemitic eruptions that have severely disrupted campus life for more than a year???"

I'm at JHU every day, and the situation was pretty peaceful and tame here and resolved peacefully after the president met with them. And yet we are on the list, for what? Not setting dogs and firehoses on peaceful protesters?

[Anonymous]

Anyone else not thinking "Mao's Cultural Revolution"? Find an excuse to close the universities down, imprison/impoverish the professors, and promote the students that have the right ideology to lead the country.