With Love, Meghan on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's fine. If you don't like her...don't watch. Stop the hate.

No hate, just disappointment.

Agree disappointment. She always looks gorgeous and women would LOVE to buy her clothes. Instead she keeps pushing this kitchenware thing. Does she own stock in some kitchen goods company or something that she can slap her name on? We want your FASHION MEGHAN!! Why are you refusing us??

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's fine. If you don't like her...don't watch. Stop the hate.

No hate, just disappointment.

Agree disappointment. She always looks gorgeous and women would LOVE to buy her clothes. Instead she keeps pushing this kitchenware thing. Does she own stock in some kitchen goods company or something that she can slap her name on? We want your FASHION MEGHAN!! Why are you refusing us??

I wouldn’t buy clothes from someone who bullies women.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw a bit of the first episode as I was doing my makeup this morning. And wow. Montecito is SO BEAUTIFUL! It is like a little piece of heaven and I cannot believe people live there.

I am also surprised at how comfortable Meghan looks in the kitchen. You can tell she actually cooks!

I want to try her pasta recipe!

With marketing bots targeting random forums, show would get enough clicks to keep public interested in their other businesses and earn good money.

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Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do not lock this thread!
So she is launching this show plus her new brand "As Ever" which will be selling jam, table linens and silverware, home decor, skincare, cookbooks, stationery, and gardening tools. I don't get what she's trying to do here. She seems to be selling things that would appeal to the homesteading crowd but she wants her customers to be upper-class elite women. She would do better business if she moved to the middle of nowhere and went all in on the tradwife thing. Who in Montecito is beekeeping and canning produce?
If she were REALLY smart she would release a line of natural-fiber clothing. Women would eat that up. I don't know why she keeps trying to be the 21st century Martha over and over.

I don’t think what she’s doing is really that different than what Martha Stewart did and she also is very upper-class elite. Some people find it aspirational but I don’t see it being aimed at tradwife set. That said she would look super inauthentic living in the middle of now where. The most rural place she’s seemingly ever lived is Evanston which… is not rural.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's fine. If you don't like her...don't watch. Stop the hate.

No hate, just disappointment.

Agree disappointment. She always looks gorgeous and women would LOVE to buy her clothes. Instead she keeps pushing this kitchenware thing. Does she own stock in some kitchen goods company or something that she can slap her name on? We want your FASHION MEGHAN!! Why are you refusing us??

I wouldn’t buy clothes from someone who bullies women.

People still buy Chanel and coco Chanel was a literal nazi.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would I buy jam and housewares from Meghan Markle? I mean, I like her fine, but there’s zero connection in my mind between her and those things. I agree with PPs who suggested fashion or a return to acting. I WOULD possibly buy a MM top or accessories.

Agree, she is very pretty and looks great in clothes. Developing her own clothing brand would have made far more sense. Look at how successful Jessica Simpson and Jaclyn Smith have been there. And there is definitely a niche for more elevated casual looks that cost far less than Goop recs. Hostessing and completely boring cooking? Waste of everyone's time.

She needs to fulfill the Netflix contract, that's the point. Unless her show is unexpectedly successful, that business partnership is probably coming to an end. Since Harry has so little going for him, the onus will be on her to generate enough income to support their lavish lifestyle. A clothing and/or accessories line makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do not lock this thread!
So she is launching this show plus her new brand "As Ever" which will be selling jam, table linens and silverware, home decor, skincare, cookbooks, stationery, and gardening tools. I don't get what she's trying to do here. She seems to be selling things that would appeal to the homesteading crowd but she wants her customers to be upper-class elite women. She would do better business if she moved to the middle of nowhere and went all in on the tradwife thing. Who in Montecito is beekeeping and canning produce?
If she were REALLY smart she would release a line of natural-fiber clothing. Women would eat that up. I don't know why she keeps trying to be the 21st century Martha over and over.

I don’t think what she’s doing is really that different than what Martha Stewart did and she also is very upper-class elite. Some people find it aspirational but I don’t see it being aimed at tradwife set. That said she would look super inauthentic living in the middle of now where. The most rural place she’s seemingly ever lived is Evanston which… is not rural.

I'm the PP and my point was it's EXACTLY what Martha Stewart did. But that's a niche whose time has passed. Upper-class women are not interested anymore in being the perfect hostess/homemaker. Other demographics of women ARE still interested in that but that's not who she's targeting. Her ideal customer would be much more likely to buy a cashmere sweater from her than a pedestrian cookbook.

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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone forgets that when Gwyneth launched GOOP, it was laughed at/hated, and it took her years and years of trial and error before she found her groove/success in the wellness space. I remember her whole GOOP staff turned over at one point. I think Meghan has good instincts, and her pre-Harry Tig brand was cool, so I'm willing to follow along and see how her new brand evolves.

Gwyneth was always very successful though. Yes, people mocked her brand, but she surrounded herself with smart and competent people. She was also extremely respected as an actress. This to me is more like Blake Lively's Preserve.

I don't think any of this is true. Gwyneth's acting career has long been criticized as pure nepotism, and there's something to it. It's an open secret that Harvey Weinstein basically bought her best actress Oscar win for Shakespeare in Love -- Miramax was relentless with their Oscar campaigns in this era and the SiL campaign was the most aggressive anyone had seen by a mile. And then Gwyneth doesn't even seem to care that much about acting anyway. There's this hilarious video of her talking about the Ironman/Avenger movies and being clearly confused about how many she's made and what anyone were about -- she filmed her scenes in a day, picked up a paycheck, never saw the movies. It's not clear she has ever cared much at all about acting. A rich girl whim.

And PP is right that GOOP was criticized and mocked for years before she made it successful. So was Gwyneth. So much tone deaf content. The Tracy Anderson collaboration (look it up), that time she wrote a "day in the life of a working mom" essay that people just shredded online, when she tried to start a music career for a hot second, the time she responded to criticism that GOOP was just for her rich white friends by saying, basically, "...Yes? And?"

But she kept at it and actually does seem to have worked hard, with the clothing line and the wellness angle and just throwing stuff at the wall until something stuck. It took years. I think being a rich nepo kid worked very much in her favor because it's not like she was ever in danger of going broke, and I think she genuinely does not really care that much what other people think of her because she's always had a soft, easy life and a supportive family. She's very insulated.

So: no, Gwyneth was not a respected and beloved actress who launched an immediately-successful lifestyle brand. Kind of the opposite. But it worked out in the end.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the first episode and part of the second. She's just not very good as a cook or hostess. A lot of the things she does are basic mom things every mom knows how to do, unless they are rich and really not handy at all. I feel like if she didn't want to share her real life, then she could have done a show like Padma Lakshmi's Taste the Nation. She could have even focused on LA, Toronto...Cities she knows really well since she lived in them, showcased local chefs and small restaurants. Less focus on her would have made her seem more humble.

That's not what she wants. She needs to be at the center. That was one of her issues as a royal, she was never going to be the center of everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think she cooks but she definitely seems worried about her clothes the whole time which makes her look timid. Who cooks in a cream outfit?

Shes affected but I get the impression that’s she’s probably likeable once she lets her guard down and stops trying so hard. I wish she’d be more authentic.

That's why i liked the tig. You could imagine yourself drinking wine talking to her. It was very personable

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I was curious so I looked up Gwyneth's working mom comments. She basically said that normal working moms have it easy because they can work in the morning and come home in the afternoon, but she has to "go to Wisconsin for two weeks" to shoot a movie so her life is much harder. does this not sound just like MM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's fine. If you don't like her...don't watch. Stop the hate.

No hate, just disappointment.

Agree disappointment. She always looks gorgeous and women would LOVE to buy her clothes. Instead she keeps pushing this kitchenware thing. Does she own stock in some kitchen goods company or something that she can slap her name on? We want your FASHION MEGHAN!! Why are you refusing us??

I wouldn’t buy clothes from someone who bullies women.

People still buy Chanel and coco Chanel was a literal nazi.

+1 she's always had pretty rings. I would love and buy an accessory coming from her but i guess that's a tough market. Not sure about jam or tea lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone forgets that when Gwyneth launched GOOP, it was laughed at/hated, and it took her years and years of trial and error before she found her groove/success in the wellness space. I remember her whole GOOP staff turned over at one point. I think Meghan has good instincts, and her pre-Harry Tig brand was cool, so I'm willing to follow along and see how her new brand evolves.

Gwyneth was always very successful though. Yes, people mocked her brand, but she surrounded herself with smart and competent people. She was also extremely respected as an actress. This to me is more like Blake Lively's Preserve.

I don't think any of this is true. Gwyneth's acting career has long been criticized as pure nepotism, and there's something to it. It's an open secret that Harvey Weinstein basically bought her best actress Oscar win for Shakespeare in Love -- Miramax was relentless with their Oscar campaigns in this era and the SiL campaign was the most aggressive anyone had seen by a mile. And then Gwyneth doesn't even seem to care that much about acting anyway. There's this hilarious video of her talking about the Ironman/Avenger movies and being clearly confused about how many she's made and what anyone were about -- she filmed her scenes in a day, picked up a paycheck, never saw the movies. It's not clear she has ever cared much at all about acting. A rich girl whim.

And PP is right that GOOP was criticized and mocked for years before she made it successful. So was Gwyneth. So much tone deaf content. The Tracy Anderson collaboration (look it up), that time she wrote a "day in the life of a working mom" essay that people just shredded online, when she tried to start a music career for a hot second, the time she responded to criticism that GOOP was just for her rich white friends by saying, basically, "...Yes? And?"

But she kept at it and actually does seem to have worked hard, with the clothing line and the wellness angle and just throwing stuff at the wall until something stuck. It took years. I think being a rich nepo kid worked very much in her favor because it's not like she was ever in danger of going broke, and I think she genuinely does not really care that much what other people think of her because she's always had a soft, easy life and a supportive family. She's very insulated.

So: no, Gwyneth was not a respected and beloved actress who launched an immediately-successful lifestyle brand. Kind of the opposite. But it worked out in the end.

It barely worked out. GOOP isn't doing too hot lately. She ended up expanded to actual stores way to fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think she cooks but she definitely seems worried about her clothes the whole time which makes her look timid. Who cooks in a cream outfit?

Shes affected but I get the impression that’s she’s probably likeable once she lets her guard down and stops trying so hard. I wish she’d be more authentic.

That's why i liked the tig. You could imagine yourself drinking wine talking to her. It was very personable

She feels like she has to live up to a lady of the manor image now, but the problem is that she wasn't born to it. So it feels inauthentic and generates little interest.

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I don’t…get why people want her clothes? I’m the one who watched Meghan try to chop garlic with a paring knife in these giant shorts that flatten her bum and an enormous blouse where the cuffs even don’t seem to fit. I don’t think the clothes flatter her or seem remotely functional.