W&M Target or Reach?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reach. Especially OOS. With a class size of ~1,600 and since they take nearly half of the class in the ED rounds, RD app has to be impecable. I would be prepared to get waitlisted. They tend to waitlist anyone who is on the line (~25%) and offer the Spring Pathways program.

Do many kids take the study abroad option?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reach. Especially OOS. With a class size of ~1,600 and since they take nearly half of the class in the ED rounds, RD app has to be impecable. I would be prepared to get waitlisted. They tend to waitlist anyone who is on the line (~25%) and offer the Spring Pathways program.

Do many kids take the study abroad option?

It's grown in popularity. They offer pathways in 5 or 6 cities. And there have been some recent features by W&M News on students who have completed the program, profiling their experience. Only downside is that you miss all the 1st Year orientation in the Fall. But likely a good option if you can afford the additional cost and W&M is your first choice. My D25 definitely would have pursued it if she was waitlisted. See this article.
https://news.wm.edu/2024/01/18/broadening-the-path-to-william-mary/

[Anonymous]

target if ED

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reach. Especially OOS. With a class size of ~1,600 and since they take nearly half of the class in the ED rounds, RD app has to be impecable. I would be prepared to get waitlisted. They tend to waitlist anyone who is on the line (~25%) and offer the Spring Pathways program.

Do many kids take the study abroad option?

It's grown in popularity. They offer pathways in 5 or 6 cities. And there have been some recent features by W&M News on students who have completed the program, profiling their experience. Only downside is that you miss all the 1st Year orientation in the Fall. But likely a good option if you can afford the additional cost and W&M is your first choice. My D25 definitely would have pursued it if she was waitlisted. See this article.
https://news.wm.edu/2024/01/18/broadening-the-path-to-william-mary/

There is a Spring orientaton

[Anonymous]

orientation^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state? Target. OOS and TO with only 8 APs (yes, I know, but instate kids with 10+ great grades and tests scores are being rejected). Not a target. Maybe a little better than a reach though.

WM likes good test scores. And they really, really like demonstrated interest. Did she tour, interview and do the “optional essay” (which is definitely not optional)? If so, it pushes her closer to target.

Yes she toured, interviewed, did both optional essays, met with the arts faculty, and was nominated for a scholarship.

What kind of scholarship? Through W&M? Who nominated her?

[Anonymous]

Would it be possible to start the following fall, rather than taking the Spring Pathway option? I feel like the freshman dorm experience is helpful for building those deep friendships; I'd prefer for my kid to not miss out on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would it be possible to start the following fall, rather than taking the Spring Pathway option? I feel like the freshman dorm experience is helpful for building those deep friendships; I'd prefer for my kid to not miss out on that.

No, kids can’t defer to fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would it be possible to start the following fall, rather than taking the Spring Pathway option? I feel like the freshman dorm experience is helpful for building those deep friendships; I'd prefer for my kid to not miss out on that.

Wouldn’t the kids doing Spring Pathway study abroad bond with their cohort too?

[Anonymous]

I’d be surprised if she didn’t get waitlisted at least. Fall admit seems possible especially since she demonstrated interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WM is a reach for you since Umd rejected not defer/WL

UMD was insane this year for certain in-state schools. Our school went from a 50% admit rate last year to <20% admit rate this year. UMD doesn’t WL or defer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state? Target. OOS and TO with only 8 APs (yes, I know, but instate kids with 10+ great grades and tests scores are being rejected). Not a target. Maybe a little better than a reach though.

WM likes good test scores. And they really, really like demonstrated interest. Did she tour, interview and do the “optional essay” (which is definitely not optional)? If so, it pushes her closer to target.

Yes she toured, interviewed, did both optional essays, met with the arts faculty, and was nominated for a scholarship.

NP. Awesome! I was going to say hard target OOS w/o scores, but maybe this makes it more of a target.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would think Target. Test would help, but must be a reason you're excluding. Pricey OOS public

Good but not competitive scores (1350 SAT) due to diagnosed learning disabilities. Intellect and comprehension are high but processing speed is low. Scores don’t match grades so she chose TO. Hopefully submitting AP scores will help a bit.

Come on. How did she get 4s and 5s on the AP tests but a 1350 on the SAT? Slow processing would also apply to the AP tests. Perhaps she didn’t study enough for the SAT. I say this as a parent of 3 ADHD kids.

A 1350 puts you at the 94th percentile nationally for HS students. Seems in line with 8APs with 4/5s.

[Anonymous]

If you DD can just get WL to W&M she can enter next spring through their guaranteed admission program — she would do Fall semester at a community college or approved study abroad program then enter W&M on campus Soring semester — hoping she gets full admission offer but this is also a 2nd way in.

Our DS is also waiting to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would think Target. Test would help, but must be a reason you're excluding. Pricey OOS public

Good but not competitive scores (1350 SAT) due to diagnosed learning disabilities. Intellect and comprehension are high but processing speed is low. Scores don’t match grades so she chose TO. Hopefully submitting AP scores will help a bit.

Come on. How did she get 4s and 5s on the AP tests but a 1350 on the SAT? Slow processing would also apply to the AP tests. Perhaps she didn’t study enough for the SAT. I say this as a parent of 3 ADHD kids.

A 1350 puts you at the 94th percentile nationally for HS students. Seems in line with 8APs with 4/5s.

1350 is fine, not pathetic, but not good. With those AP scores, 1400+ is what I would expect