W&M Target or Reach?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Female
MCPS W school
3.9 UW (4.7 W) GPA
8 APs - submitted 4s and 5s
4 years of language
4 years of band (including advanced)
TO
Strong ECs, letters, essays
Nominated by school for W&M Scholars
Demonstrated interest (tour and interview)
Good performing arts supplement

Rejected from instate UMD. Accepted to JMU HC. Hoping for W&M, which is her first choice for all but financial reasons.


Given W&M is like 60% female, it might be in reach territory. If it tracks demonstrated interest and your supplement is impressive, you're in the running.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1350....are you really asking this question?


What a jerk. OP is applying TO so the college will never see it and is therefore irrelevant. Also that is still at top 10% score.

Anonymous
Reach as a female, target as a male. Just the current dynamics of college admissions.
Anonymous
Don’t use Naviance to determine reach target and safeties. It either told my son Georgia Tech was a target or safety and he was rejected.
Anonymous
I thought JMU honor college admissions are released later in the cycle, like March?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought JMU honor college admissions are released later in the cycle, like March?


Accepted to JMU EA on Jan 17 and HC the following week. No word on OOS merit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would think Target. Test would help, but must be a reason you're excluding. Pricey OOS public


Good but not competitive scores (1350 SAT) due to diagnosed learning disabilities. Intellect and comprehension are high but processing speed is low. Scores don’t match grades so she chose TO. Hopefully submitting AP scores will help a bit.


Come on. How did she get 4s and 5s on the AP tests but a 1350 on the SAT? Slow processing would also apply to the AP tests. Perhaps she didn’t study enough for the SAT. I say this as a parent of 3 ADHD kids.


4s and 5s on the ones they SUBMITTED…..could be only a couple were that
Anonymous
Reach. Especially OOS. With a class size of ~1,600 and since they take nearly half of the class in the ED rounds, RD app has to be impecable. I would be prepared to get waitlisted. They tend to waitlist anyone who is on the line (~25%) and offer the Spring Pathways program.
Anonymous
IMO, W&M is more of a hard target. If UMD in-state was considered a target per Naviance and high school college counselor, don’t let the rejection shake their confidence about getting into other targets. I know it sounds like urban legend but there are enough stories of “didn’t get into UMD in-state (or Spring) but got into x school that has a lower acceptance rate” that your daughter shouldn’t lose hope about W&M.

Not sure if your kid would consider it but if they get waitlisted by W&M, there is a Spring pathway https://www.wm.edu/admission/undergraduateadmission/how-to-apply/after-applying/decision-explanations/waitlisted/spring-pathway-options/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:IMO, W&M is more of a hard target. If UMD in-state was considered a target per Naviance and high school college counselor, don’t let the rejection shake their confidence about getting into other targets. I know it sounds like urban legend but there are enough stories of “didn’t get into UMD in-state (or Spring) but got into x school that has a lower acceptance rate” that your daughter shouldn’t lose hope about W&M.

Not sure if your kid would consider it but if they get waitlisted by W&M, there is a Spring pathway https://www.wm.edu/admission/undergraduateadmission/how-to-apply/after-applying/decision-explanations/waitlisted/spring-pathway-options/


Thanks for the encouragement and for sharing info on Spring Pathways. I didn’t realize that’s an option for all WL students. Sounds intriguing.
Anonymous
What’s the historical acceptance rate for your school OP? Naviance should tell you. Where does your kid fall on the scattergrams? That’s the most important consideration.
Anonymous
UMD you would most likely not gotten in with a 4.8. It was crazy out of W schools. So not let that scare you.

To be honest Penn State, Pitt, Virginia Tech, UDELL, Binghamton, Rutgers, UMASS, Ohio State, JMU are schools for that GPA in todays world
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought JMU honor college admissions are released later in the cycle, like March?


Accepted to JMU EA on Jan 17 and HC the following week. No word on OOS merit.


Same my kid, unless Merit my kid does not want to even visit it. We are OOS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What’s the historical acceptance rate for your school OP? Naviance should tell you. Where does your kid fall on the scattergrams? That’s the most important consideration.


30-40%. DD is slightly above the line for GPA (weighted and unweighted) and slightly below for SAT but went TO. Interestingly, while few people went TO from DD's W school historically, none who did were denied, according to Naviance. They were either accepted or waitlisted.
Anonymous
Slight reach
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