Clemson? Syracuse? Elon? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

They are used as targets for those with 1280-1350, commonly because Uva and WM in state are reaches and they do not want JMU/CNU. clemson/UGA Syracuse/Elon are reaches for those below 1250. They are likelies for those with 1450+ and commonly not even considered for those close to the top of the class with 1530+, who grind for T10. Who cares? Focus on the right schools for your kid. There is nothing wrong with any of these schools if the fit your kid. They are all good schools in the general landscape of all 2000 colleges in the US. They are likely poor fits for someone who would truly thrive in an ivy/stanford/Duke environment. YMMV.

UGA? No way. Have you looked at the numbers needed to get into UGA?

Right. UGA is a whole different beast.

Clemson was a likely for my kid and one they would seriously attend. They loved their visit and have heard great things from students who attend. Don’t forget, there are high achievers at schools outside the top 10.

The. UGA enrolled data will not be that different from Clemson. UGA accepts a lot of high stats kids, particularly in EA, but most don’t enroll.

My kid (high stats) is also in at UGA and super excited about it.

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NP. Because the top 10 have become miserable places filled with the worst people in the world.

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We visited Elon and were impressed (and have heard good things from an alum). DC will likely apply there; we were glad to find a safety school that they like and would be happy to attend. I know many who went to or are at Syracuse now and were/are happy there too. I don't really know anything about Clemson.

My impression is that these are solid schools for where kids are generally happy. No, the kids going there are not academic powerhouses, but kids who are not Ivy material need a place to go to college too.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Because the top 10 have become miserable places filled with the worst people in the world.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:OK, OP, what does this forum say it takes to get into UVA? Do you think students from VA attending Clemson are passing up UVA, or do you suppose that, just perhaps, they had an imperfect GPA?

+2 If you have 2 or 3 B+s on your transcript in FCPS, despite taking 10 APs, you will not be getting into UVA. However, you have a pretty good chance of getting into Clemson.

Exactly.

Schools like Clemson, etc. are cleaning up on high stats kids who didn't get in elsewhere due to overfocus on GPA perfection and underfocus on test scores, and then got donut-holed for cost at not-quite-top privates. Clemson's 75th percentile is 1400, a decent number of kids with decent scores >1400. Clemson has more test-submitters than Vandy, for pete's sake, though Vandy historically loved its high-scorers and obviously has a much higher score range and super low acceptance rate.

exactly this - my high stat kid got deferred at UVA, but was accepted at Clemson w a fantastic merit scholarship. Love the school that loves you!

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a 1320 SAT, 8 AP classes, mostly As, but several A-s, and even two Bs (gasp!) at a FCPS high school. She's a good varsity athlete, but not quite good enough for D1 in her sport.

She won't get into UVA or Ivy league. OP, do you think she shouldn't go to college?

Or do you think she should go to Clemson, Syracuse, Elon or one of several other schools that are at that level.

This x1000. Not all kids have all As. We have somehow created a system that expects 17 year olds to be perfect. I am fine with my getting an A-/B+ in AP Calculus and going to Clemson. Would we all prefer UVA? Yes, but once you get a single B you are pretty much out of luck from NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

Syracuse, yes.

The other 2, no way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

Syracuse, yes.

The other 2, no way.

Oh please, get over yourself. How miserable do you have to be to write a post like this?

[Anonymous]

DCUM snobs, you never fail to entertain.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid recently graduated from a private university in a similar vein as the ones mentioned here, with a degree in accounting. Loved every minute of it and said he'd do it all over again! The bonus, it came with merit - it was a bargain.

Can't go wrong with an accounting degree at any college.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for the rankings obsessed people to process that not everyone focuses on rankings? The three schools mentioned have hugely loyal alumni groups and many people see them as places to get a solid education while having a great time, and finding gainful employment after graduation.

Rankings weren't even mentioned in OP's post. Seems like YOU are the one obsessed with rankings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

They are used as targets for those with 1280-1350, commonly because Uva and WM in state are reaches and they do not want JMU/CNU.

Why is JMU not as appealing as these schools? Genuine question.

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Why not? Clearly students choose these schools, for a variety of reasons.

I don’t get sh*tting on any school really.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

They are used as targets for those with 1280-1350, commonly because Uva and WM in state are reaches and they do not want JMU/CNU.

Why is JMU not as appealing as these schools? Genuine question.

It’s likely a different overall feeling. For example, Elon is beautiful and very fratty. Clemson is very southern football. They all have different vibes (just like more elite schools). If price is not an issue, why not go to the one you like where you think you will be happiest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Clemson: 1320 | 60% submitting
Syracuse: 1340 | 33% submitting
Elon: 1230 | 51% submitting

Why are these schools talked about so much on this forum? They seem pretty unremarkable, not terrible and not that great. What gives?

They are used as targets for those with 1280-1350, commonly because Uva and WM in state are reaches and they do not want JMU/CNU.

Why is JMU not as appealing as these schools? Genuine question.

It is? JMU is hugely popular.
DP