Where do top students who got rejected early from Ivy/T10 land?

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Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


Also plenty of stories of applicants not getting into an ivy or Hopkins/Chicago ED and then other ivies RD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unless your DC is way outside the ballpark in terms of stats, I would say ED results at very selective schools don't necessarily define future results.

Our DS got rejected Duke ED with 1570/4.0UW/high course rigor/solid ECs. In regular round was accepted to multiple T10s and other great schools, and now is happily at Penn. Of course would have preferred getting a yes from his dream school during ED, but he's made great friends at Penn and has mostly forgotten Duke at this point.


+1

I don't think you can tell much from a rejection at one school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


Ivies RD > Hopkins/Chicago ED2 > Ivies ED 1 in selectivity.

Since the bulk of ED students are already taken in ED1, ED2 acceptance rates are in the single digits where as ivies such as Cornell, Penn, Dartmouth have higher ED 1 acceptance rates.
Anonymous
My son was rejected from every IVY and Top 15 schools he applied to 3 years ago.

He graduates from Oxford in a couple of months.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unless your DC is way outside the ballpark in terms of stats, I would say ED results at very selective schools don't necessarily define future results.

Our DS got rejected Duke ED with 1570/4.0UW/high course rigor/solid ECs. In regular round was accepted to multiple T10s and other great schools, and now is happily at Penn. Of course would have preferred getting a yes from his dream school during ED, but he's made great friends at Penn and has mostly forgotten Duke at this point.


+1

I don't think you can tell much from a rejection at one school.


Same. Rejected from Columbia ED. Accepted to Stanford and Harvard RD. Rejected at other ivies however.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Got into 2 other Ivies,another T10 and some top LACs in RD.


Same
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:
Anonymous
My kid was deferred (and eventually rejected) from both their ED I and ED II (one top LAC and one top 30 uni) — and then was accepted at 11 other schools RD, including half a dozen schools ranked better than the university were he was rejected. Ended up at a top 5 LAC. It’s very hard to judge by one deferral.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Acceptance rates and SAT scores are so 2019.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!


Pre-test optional, chicago and hopkins were both already more selective than cornell with higher test scores. this isn't anything new.
Anonymous
They go to UVA in our area. If they don’t get into a tip top school, they seem to go to UVA over T20-T30 schools. We are at a fcps high school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am talking about applicants who have the academic stats (1500+, 4.0+, high rigor) but didn't make the cut. Unhooked. What typically happens to them?


At our school many ED2 to U Chicago, Hopkins if pre med or Tufts/Bowdoin/Wesleyan if they want more of a LAC.


they aren't getting into Chicago or Hopkins for ED 2 if unhooked. If anything, these are harder than many ivies ED1.


This just isn’t true, since the admitted students are almost exclusively Ivy+ rejects.


You're kind of dumb - ED2 at Hopkins and Chicago is far more selective than ED 1 at ivies.


This might be true. Hopkins and Chicago are unusual among top schools in having ED2. Probably many strong kids apply ED2 there and it is a tough pool.

That said, the overall difficulty of getting into Hopkins or Chicago is similar to Cornell or Northwestern imo.


Both actually harder for class of 2028:

Hopkins: 5.5% acceptance rate overall
Chicago: 4.5% accepted
Cornell: 8.4%

Enrolled Test scores:

Hopkins:1530 - 1570
Chicago: 1510 - 1560
Cornell: 1480 - 1550
Chicago:


Re SAT scores, aren't all those schools test optional in those stats?



That’s Numberwang!


Pre-test optional, chicago and hopkins were both already more selective than cornell with higher test scores. this isn't anything new.


FWIW, Hopkins and Chicago removed their pre-covid common data sets so there's no way to tell. (Cornell provides common data sets back to 1999.)
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