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PS: Look, there are still people like the ACLU and the SPLC who consider it their mission to help people in these sorts of situations. But they are going to be really busy. Why do you think your personal issues will take precedence over everyone else?

Do you not remember that the first Trump administration put actual, real children in cages, decided they did not need to supply them with soap or toothbrushes or blankets, and then lost track of them? Before any sort of adjudication of their cases?

You're a grown adult and can take care of yourself. I don't know why you think you are going to fare better.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

By concealing information about things that would have made them ineligible.

But if they have managed to become a citizen then the lie or whatever would have made them ineligible has been missed.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

They lie on the Green card and citizenship forms. For example, they ask if you have ever worked illegally in the country.

We know for a fact that Elon Musk illegally worked while here on a student visa and never even attended classes at Stanford as required. Thus, he very likely lied on his citizenship paperwork. Melania Trump did the same - she was modeling in NY while her on a tourist visa. Also illegal.

If they catch you in a lie or a discrepancy related to your Green Card or citizenship applications, they can move to dénaturalize you.

You can only be denaturalized if you are a citizen. So the chances are, if you have lied to become a citizen, then they have already missed the lie. That would mean that they would have to go back and re-check your citizenship application. They're going to have to back and check hundred of thousands if not millions of citizen applications. This is going to take a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Then don't forget, these people will be able to appeal.

Wait, why do you think that?

Convicted murders and rapists can appeal their convictions so why can't someone appeal their denaturalization or deportation? It may come as a surprise to you but the same way some innocent people sometimes end up in prison, some innocent people could end up being deported. So therefore, they would appeal.

Who's going to stop anyone if they just move people out of the country? WHat's the actual process you will take if you are on the Mexico side of the border (or wherever) and feel it was not justified?

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Some of the people deported have relatives that were born here wives, children etc, they could appeal for the deported.

And if that application to appeal is denied, you are going to -- what? Take it to Trump's Supreme Court? How?

This is really naive, PP. You get to make decisions for yourself, but please do make a back-up plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

By concealing information about things that would have made them ineligible.

But if they have managed to become a citizen then the lie or whatever would have made them ineligible has been missed.

And this is what officials were combing through records to find in Trump's first term. There is no statute of limitations on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

They lie on the Green card and citizenship forms. For example, they ask if you have ever worked illegally in the country.

We know for a fact that Elon Musk illegally worked while here on a student visa and never even attended classes at Stanford as required. Thus, he very likely lied on his citizenship paperwork. Melania Trump did the same - she was modeling in NY while her on a tourist visa. Also illegal.

If they catch you in a lie or a discrepancy related to your Green Card or citizenship applications, they can move to dénaturalize you.

You can only be denaturalized if you are a citizen. So the chances are, if you have lied to become a citizen, then they have already missed the lie. That would mean that they would have to go back and re-check your citizenship application. They're going to have to back and check hundred of thousands if not millions of citizen applications. This is going to take a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Then don't forget, these people will be able to appeal.

Wait, why do you think that?

Convicted murders and rapists can appeal their convictions so why can't someone appeal their denaturalization or deportation? It may come as a surprise to you but the same way some innocent people sometimes end up in prison, some innocent people could end up being deported. So therefore, they would appeal.

Who's going to stop anyone if they just move people out of the country? WHat's the actual process you will take if you are on the Mexico side of the border (or wherever) and feel it was not justified?

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Some of the people deported have relatives that were born here wives, children etc, they could appeal for the deported.

And if that application to appeal is denied, you are going to -- what? Take it to Trump's Supreme Court? How?

This is really naive, PP. You get to make decisions for yourself, but please do make a back-up plan.

Back up plan? I'm fine.

I'm just pointing out some of the pit falls to the way of thinking that many of you have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Americans are ok with more stringent rules for naturalized citizenship and ending birthright citizenship
It should require that one or more parents are citizens

Someone hasn't read the Constitution

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

They lie on the Green card and citizenship forms. For example, they ask if you have ever worked illegally in the country.

We know for a fact that Elon Musk illegally worked while here on a student visa and never even attended classes at Stanford as required. Thus, he very likely lied on his citizenship paperwork. Melania Trump did the same - she was modeling in NY while her on a tourist visa. Also illegal.

If they catch you in a lie or a discrepancy related to your Green Card or citizenship applications, they can move to dénaturalize you.

You can only be denaturalized if you are a citizen. So the chances are, if you have lied to become a citizen, then they have already missed the lie. That would mean that they would have to go back and re-check your citizenship application. They're going to have to back and check hundred of thousands if not millions of citizen applications. This is going to take a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Then don't forget, these people will be able to appeal.

Wait, why do you think that?

Convicted murders and rapists can appeal their convictions so why can't someone appeal their denaturalization or deportation? It may come as a surprise to you but the same way some innocent people sometimes end up in prison, some innocent people could end up being deported. So therefore, they would appeal.

Who's going to stop anyone if they just move people out of the country? WHat's the actual process you will take if you are on the Mexico side of the border (or wherever) and feel it was not justified?

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Some of the people deported have relatives that were born here wives, children etc, they could appeal for the deported.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

They lie on the Green card and citizenship forms. For example, they ask if you have ever worked illegally in the country.

We know for a fact that Elon Musk illegally worked while here on a student visa and never even attended classes at Stanford as required. Thus, he very likely lied on his citizenship paperwork. Melania Trump did the same - she was modeling in NY while her on a tourist visa. Also illegal.

If they catch you in a lie or a discrepancy related to your Green Card or citizenship applications, they can move to dénaturalize you.

You can only be denaturalized if you are a citizen. So the chances are, if you have lied to become a citizen, then they have already missed the lie. That would mean that they would have to go back and re-check your citizenship application. They're going to have to back and check hundred of thousands if not millions of citizen applications. This is going to take a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Then don't forget, these people will be able to appeal.

Wait, why do you think that?

Convicted murders and rapists can appeal their convictions so why can't someone appeal their denaturalization or deportation? It may come as a surprise to you but the same way some innocent people sometimes end up in prison, some innocent people could end up being deported. So therefore, they would appeal.

Who's going to stop anyone if they just move people out of the country? WHat's the actual process you will take if you are on the Mexico side of the border (or wherever) and feel it was not justified?

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Some of the people deported have relatives that were born here wives, children etc, they could appeal for the deported.

And if that application to appeal is denied, you are going to -- what? Take it to Trump's Supreme Court? How?

This is really naive, PP. You get to make decisions for yourself, but please do make a back-up plan.

Back up plan? I'm fine.

I'm just pointing out some of the pit falls to the way of thinking that many of you have.

"Families can be deported together."
https://x.com/blackknight10k?lang=en

[Anonymous]

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PS: Look, there are still people like the ACLU and the SPLC who consider it their mission to help people in these sorts of situations. But they are going to be really busy. Why do you think your personal issues will take precedence over everyone else?

Do you not remember that the first Trump administration put actual, real children in cages, decided they did not need to supply them with soap or toothbrushes or blankets, and then lost track of them? Before any sort of adjudication of their cases?

You're a grown adult and can take care of yourself. I don't know why you think you are going to fare better.

The original kids in cages pics were literally from the Obama administration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

This! Also they are too incompetent to check everyone quickly. They may inconvenience you by asking to submit extra evidence or some such, but this is also not very likely.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

They lie on the Green card and citizenship forms. For example, they ask if you have ever worked illegally in the country.

We know for a fact that Elon Musk illegally worked while here on a student visa and never even attended classes at Stanford as required. Thus, he very likely lied on his citizenship paperwork. Melania Trump did the same - she was modeling in NY while her on a tourist visa. Also illegal.

If they catch you in a lie or a discrepancy related to your Green Card or citizenship applications, they can move to dénaturalize you.

You can only be denaturalized if you are a citizen. So the chances are, if you have lied to become a citizen, then they have already missed the lie. That would mean that they would have to go back and re-check your citizenship application. They're going to have to back and check hundred of thousands if not millions of citizen applications. This is going to take a lot of time and cost a lot of money. Then don't forget, these people will be able to appeal.

Wait, why do you think that?

Convicted murders and rapists can appeal their convictions so why can't someone appeal their denaturalization or deportation? It may come as a surprise to you but the same way some innocent people sometimes end up in prison, some innocent people could end up being deported. So therefore, they would appeal.

Who's going to stop anyone if they just move people out of the country? WHat's the actual process you will take if you are on the Mexico side of the border (or wherever) and feel it was not justified?

Are you serious?

Yes, I am serious. Some of the people deported have relatives that were born here wives, children etc, they could appeal for the deported.

And if that application to appeal is denied, you are going to -- what? Take it to Trump's Supreme Court? How?

This is really naive, PP. You get to make decisions for yourself, but please do make a back-up plan.

Back up plan? I'm fine.

I'm just pointing out some of the pit falls to the way of thinking that many of you have.

... okay.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

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PS: Look, there are still people like the ACLU and the SPLC who consider it their mission to help people in these sorts of situations. But they are going to be really busy. Why do you think your personal issues will take precedence over everyone else?

Do you not remember that the first Trump administration put actual, real children in cages, decided they did not need to supply them with soap or toothbrushes or blankets, and then lost track of them? Before any sort of adjudication of their cases?

You're a grown adult and can take care of yourself. I don't know why you think you are going to fare better.

The original kids in cages pics were literally from the Obama administration.

So ... the fact that Trump carried it on from there is somehow reassuring to you?

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Did you gain citizenship by something illegal if not then you are ok.

How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal?

Lying on the application

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t that denaturalize Melania and Usha Vance’s family members?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean he isn’t wrong…

Who isn’t wrong?