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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

And this is what you find quite reassuring, after knowing who Trump is and what happens under his watch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

If he was going to do that he would be denaturalizing Elon Musk.

This is all just spiking the football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

"Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

And this is what you find quite reassuring, after knowing who Trump is and what happens under his watch?

Absolutely. I lived through some really dangerous times (war) and, having lived in the US for a long time, I realized that a lot of Americans (left and right) are absolutely hysterical when it comes to politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

If he was going to do that he would be denaturalizing Elon Musk.

This is all just spiking the football.

Why? Once again, you don't have to denaturalize or deport "everyone" in order to do it to "some."

You're someone who thinks that cops have to pull over everyone with a broken taillight if they pull over a black person or two with one, don't you? Egads. Grow up already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

And this is what you find quite reassuring, after knowing who Trump is and what happens under his watch?

Absolutely. I lived through some really dangerous times (war) and, having lived in the US for a long time, I realized that a lot of Americans (left and right) are absolutely hysterical when it comes to politics.

Okay. Bold move, Cotton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

"Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The length of time you spend here isn't enough to ensure you will be treated as you think you should be. Neither is being a good person, or an upstanding member of your community.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jimmys-fight-for-his-rights

My father was an American born citizen and my mother was a Canadian born citizen. The government claims that I am not a legal citizen, even though I have lived here, voted, and paid taxes for 64 years.

The case you are quoting is not part of trump’s agenda
There are ppl who cannot prove they are citizens due to technicalities, he is not the only one.

What happens to people who were naturalized 60 years ago and can't prove the technicalities that would prevent that from being rolled back, once someone questions their naturalization process?

What happens to then now? There’s a case of at least another person, a doctor, born to an Iranian diplomat father who was erroneously given U.S. citizenship by birth

"Now" is not when the denaturalization movement has been turbocharged. Now is not the problem, PP. Pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

If he was going to do that he would be denaturalizing Elon Musk.

This is all just spiking the football.

Why? Once again, you don't have to denaturalize or deport "everyone" in order to do it to "some."

You're someone who thinks that cops have to pull over everyone with a broken taillight if they pull over a black person or two with one, don't you? Egads. Grow up already.

Weird that people actually think it would be all 48 million naturalized citizens. That wouldn’t work. Too expensive and too disruptive. The point is to keep people in line knowing that it could happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

"Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

Interesting. But here’s the thing if you do away with rule of law and an impartial judiciary and allow law enforcement to act with impunity, it really doesn’t matter what’s “on the books”. Being a communist is whatever someone who isn’t loyal is doing.

[Anonymous]

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

So it is really your claim that the DoJ Civil Division’s Denaturalization Section has not denaturalized ANY people who had the status of US naturalized citizens? Is that it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

If he was going to do that he would be denaturalizing Elon Musk.

This is all just spiking the football.

Why? Once again, you don't have to denaturalize or deport "everyone" in order to do it to "some."

You're someone who thinks that cops have to pull over everyone with a broken taillight if they pull over a black person or two with one, don't you? Egads. Grow up already.

Weird that people actually think it would be all 48 million naturalized citizens. That wouldn’t work. Too expensive and too disruptive. The point is to keep people in line knowing that it could happen.

That's the whole point of the panopticon.