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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

"Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

Interesting. But here’s the thing if you do away with rule of law and an impartial judiciary and allow law enforcement to act with impunity, it really doesn’t matter what’s “on the books”. Being a communist is whatever someone who isn’t loyal is doing.

If things are that bad, the pretext of denaturalization is entirely unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

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Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

So it is really your claim that the DoJ Civil Division’s Denaturalization Section has not denaturalized ANY people who had the status of US naturalized citizens? Is that it?

You mean, in the past 70 years?

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Trump deports Elon and seizes all his assets!

“Atlanta immigration attorney Charles Kuck says Musk stating that he had a J-1 visa makes it clear he worked illegally, given the restrictions that would have only allowed work in connection with his academic program.”

“So clearly, he’s admitting now that in fact, he did work illegally and violate his status. The only question is at that point, what did he do to fix his status violation?” Kuck says.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/28/us/elon-musk-immigration-washington-post-cec

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

And this is what you find quite reassuring, after knowing who Trump is and what happens under his watch?

+1. Right? Pretty sure most Naturalized citizens are not anarchists or communists but if they criticize Trump, can they be labeled as such? Some of y’all need to go read some history books. It’s not about whether X person cheated and deserves to have his/her citizenship taken away. It’s using the threat of taking people’s citizenships as a means of squashing dissent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

And this is what you find quite reassuring, after knowing who Trump is and what happens under his watch?

+1. Right? Pretty sure most Naturalized citizens are not anarchists or communists but if they criticize Trump, can they be labeled as such? Some of y’all need to go read some history books. It’s not about whether X person cheated and deserves to have his/her citizenship taken away. It’s using the threat of taking people’s citizenships as a means of squashing dissent.

You need to work on your imagination.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

You should stop being so condescending. Trump is a wrecking ball and he hasn’t even been inaugurated. No one is saying this will happen today; Biden is certainly not going to implement such policies. Trump and his sycophants promised revenge and a dictatorship. Maybe it won’t come to pass, but unwise for people to behave the way too many Jews did in Austria and Germany when Hitler came to power and assume that everything will stay the same. If you truly lived under an authoritarian regime, you should understand better than most how quickly things can change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

So it is really your claim that the DoJ Civil Division’s Denaturalization Section has not denaturalized ANY people who had the status of US naturalized citizens? Is that it?

You mean, in the past 70 years?

According to the DoJ press release, that Section was announced as being created 4 years ago, so you probably don't have to go back that far.

But if you are not sure what you are talking about, that might explain some of the claims you were making about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

You should stop being so condescending. Trump is a wrecking ball and he hasn’t even been inaugurated. No one is saying this will happen today; Biden is certainly not going to implement such policies. Trump and his sycophants promised revenge and a dictatorship. Maybe it won’t come to pass, but unwise for people to behave the way too many Jews did in Austria and Germany when Hitler came to power and assume that everything will stay the same. If you truly lived under an authoritarian regime, you should understand better than most how quickly things can change.

Please stop with the hysterics. You are adding fuel to the fire. Trump is not Hitler, there will be no pogroms, and no denaturalization.

But what can happen, if people like you don't stop with the nonsense, is civil war, brought on by hysterics on both sides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

So do I, buddy, and you are lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

You should stop being so condescending. Trump is a wrecking ball and he hasn’t even been inaugurated. No one is saying this will happen today; Biden is certainly not going to implement such policies. Trump and his sycophants promised revenge and a dictatorship. Maybe it won’t come to pass, but unwise for people to behave the way too many Jews did in Austria and Germany when Hitler came to power and assume that everything will stay the same. If you truly lived under an authoritarian regime, you should understand better than most how quickly things can change.

Please stop with the hysterics. You are adding fuel to the fire. Trump is not Hitler, there will be no pogroms, and no denaturalization.

But what can happen, if people like you don't stop with the nonsense, is civil war, brought on by hysterics on both sides.

Literally, they told you. And you still deny it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

So it is really your claim that the DoJ Civil Division’s Denaturalization Section has not denaturalized ANY people who had the status of US naturalized citizens? Is that it?

You mean, in the past 70 years?

According to the DoJ press release, that Section was announced as being created 4 years ago, so you probably don't have to go back that far.

But if you are not sure what you are talking about, that might explain some of the claims you were making about it.

You are a completely blinded partisan consumed by your in-group loyalties and with zero actual experience with immigration. There is no point in warning idiots like you, just like there was no point doing it in my home country many years ago.

I hope OP read at least some of the more reassuring posts by myself and others. Goodbye!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

He is responding to this:

"We used to strip foreign-born anarchists and communists of citizenship and deport them. Laws still on the books. Just planting seeds"

As an naturalized citizen I am very familiar with this. There was a section on being a member of the communist party and similar.

See, people who haven't lived under an authoritarian regime have no clue.

They will make it happen. They will make you a communist and kick you out.

And even people who have read about authoritarian regimes understand how it works.

For people catching up, who may now care more than they did a week ago, you can read “on tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. It’s a pretty quick read and will be available at any public library.

I am one of the PPs and, if such thing existed, I would have a "doctorate in living under an authoritarian regime". You know, one where people are actually killed for their political views. You are whipping yourself into a frenzy precisely because you have no idea what authoritarian regime looks like. You have convinced yourself that you live in extremely dangerous times while in fact you are extremely privileged in your safety.

But that doesn't matter. Please stop scaring people who are already very scared (people who didn't vote for Trump, clearly). They gain nothing from it.

You should stop being so condescending. Trump is a wrecking ball and he hasn’t even been inaugurated. No one is saying this will happen today; Biden is certainly not going to implement such policies. Trump and his sycophants promised revenge and a dictatorship. Maybe it won’t come to pass, but unwise for people to behave the way too many Jews did in Austria and Germany when Hitler came to power and assume that everything will stay the same. If you truly lived under an authoritarian regime, you should understand better than most how quickly things can change.

Please stop with the hysterics. You are adding fuel to the fire. Trump is not Hitler, there will be no pogroms, and no denaturalization.

But what can happen, if people like you don't stop with the nonsense, is civil war, brought on by hysterics on both sides.

I’m not remotely hysterical. I’m just looking quite objectively at the facts. Stephen Miller is on a mission and he has been quite clear about that mission.

Seems you are the one who is hysterical talking about civil war. No one is taking to the streets about this. It’s what the electorate voted for.

[Anonymous]

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Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

So it is really your claim that the DoJ Civil Division’s Denaturalization Section has not denaturalized ANY people who had the status of US naturalized citizens? Is that it?

You mean, in the past 70 years?

According to the DoJ press release, that Section was announced as being created 4 years ago, so you probably don't have to go back that far.

But if you are not sure what you are talking about, that might explain some of the claims you were making about it.

You are a completely blinded partisan consumed by your in-group loyalties and with zero actual experience with immigration. There is no point in warning idiots like you, just like there was no point doing it in my home country many years ago.

I hope OP read at least some of the more reassuring posts by myself and others. Goodbye!

"I was wrong so I'm taking my ball and going home. Byyyyyeeee!"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

"Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Who do you think is being "denaturalized," if not naturalized citizens? The Great Barrier Reef? Holstein cows?

Nobody. On paper (which is the law on the books today as it was 50 years ago) they will denaturalize former members of communist parties who lied about it. In reality, in the next 4 years, there will fewer than 50 people in the USA who are denaturalized and it will be because they broke laws before the got their citizenship, lied on their applications, clerical error and similar.

Interesting. But here’s the thing if you do away with rule of law and an impartial judiciary and allow law enforcement to act with impunity, it really doesn’t matter what’s “on the books”. Being a communist is whatever someone who isn’t loyal is doing.

If things are that bad, the pretext of denaturalization is entirely unnecessary.

But that’s how authoritarian regimes work. There is always a colorable argument that they are “just enforcing the laws”.