But Obama's administration never pushed for denaturalization, unlike what was started in Trump's first administration. And he's appointing people that want to see it through. Be real. You didn't buy into that "the two parties are the same" nonsense, did you? Because if you did, it's the FO time. |
Except there have been approx 8 million documented illegal crossings under the Biden administration and that is more than enough the keep Trump et al busy for the next 2-4 years. |
Personally I think people truly believe it’s hot air and mean tweets. Dems have been asking where to draw the line and then stating that Trump’s rhetoric is dangerous because it emboldens racist, sexist people to do harm. But you have to wonder why they’d vote for someone who just spits out hateful word salad but won’t actually do what he promises. |
I’m not making fun of OP. But really Miller is insane and Trump is demented and not going to stop him. This is what people voted for: remember “mass deportation” and how you can’t wave a wand and make someone a citizen. There won’t be any guardrails. Not sure how to make that more clear. We are certainly planning for worst case scenarios that might affect us. So should OP. |
OP, it is reasonable to be be worried. When people tell you who they are, believe them. When the Trump administration tells you what they are going to do, you'd best prepare for it. This isn't fear mongering, PPs. This is pragmatism. You heard that Roe v Wade wasn't going to be touched up and down and up the sidewalk again, like a mantra. But that's exactly what Trump's SCOTUS did. This time they are telling us in advance what they are going to do. Why on earth are you hobbling OP's ability to prepare for this promised step by telling her to close her eyes? Are you actually trying to feed the leopards by hand? |
Right. We have actual lists of naturalized citizens. There are records, unlike for those making illegal crossings (that is kind of the point -- people doing things illegally don't put their names and addresses on government lists -- they aren't signing some kind of magical guestbook at the border). For Pete's sake, this is obvious. And it's been promised, and Trump is dancing for 39 minutes high on his own fumes *before* he takes office. Why do you think there will be guardrails or any protections after he does? You know this country has a Trump majority SCOTUS and a Republican Congress, right? Have you been asleep? |
This. No one is saying OP should leave the country. But it is prudent for OP to prepare for the possibility. |
What if a person from Mexico is married to a natural born citizen? |
Denaturalization is a very complicated process where only the federal courts can denatz someone. They have done it if the person was a human rights violator (ex. Nazi guard) or criminal/terrorist and was ineligible for citizenship in the first place. If you are not in those categories, and your parents aren’t either, then you will most likely not be in denatz proceedings. |
He will deport illegal immigrants, not people with green cards or naturalized citizens. I came here legally and am a naturalized citizen. I also voted for Trump because the border needs to be secured and people who came here illegally, especially ones with criminal backgrounds, need a one way ticket out of here. |
Given the plans being voiced, why WOULDN'T you plan for what to do if they follow through on them? Is it somehow better to be caught flat-footed and completely unprepared? Nobody is suggesting OP deport herself or move out of the country preemptively. But anyone who is is naturalized, or on a green card, or overstaying a VISA, or anything else other than the most bland boring citizenship status should be thinking about what to do if the coming administration does what it says it will do. |
Go spend 1 week in your local elementary school and you will understand why ending birthright citizenship is so critical.
Our resources are maxed out because of the number of ESL/ESOL students. And guess what? Their parents don't care about their schooling at all. They. Don't. Care. School is free daycare for them and that's all they care about. |
The only reports we've seen were the ones where citizenship should never have been granted as the applicant has either committed a crime or concealed material information that would have made them ineligible. I don't know what to tell you. My husband is a naturalized citizen. Under Obama, his case was held up for four years. Under Trump, after some legal maneuvering, they literally called him on the phone and scheduled his oath ceremony right away. My green card case under Biden took much longer than necessary. |
How does someone gain citizenship by something illegal? |
So this is a choice. How do you keep the sand out of your eyes with your head jammed that far down the sand hole?
And it doesn't matter if you think you are safe, because nothing happened yet. In his first term, Trump's administration was combing back over naturalized citizens' document to see if they could find previously unnoticed and nitpicking errors. Find an errors nd you found an excuse to deport. |