Yale sees DECREASE in Asian strudents from 30% to 24%; White students icnrease from 42% to 46%

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

TBH, no one really wants kids who are just 1000% focused on academics without any sporting ability, club membership, leadership positions, creative hobbies. Asian students tend to hyperfocus on academics but it's not really what higher education is supposed to embody in the west

But then why do asians tend to have better extra-curriculars than whites?

In what way? Certainly not athletics.

Did you know that extra curriculars is not just athletics? Did you know that the Harvard lawsuit found that Asian Americans had better e.c than most of the students, including white students?

of course I know that, that's why I listed off a number of different hobbies. Historically asians have tended to hyper focus on academics or academically-adjacent hobbies. Being a member of the chess club, mathletes, or model UN doesnt really add too much to your profile when youre applying at these competitive places. Ideally they would want a candidate with straight As, who can also play football, who's also into rock climbing, who also loves to paint, who also plays in a rock band on the weekend, who's also well liked by peers, etc. And these schools can afford to be choosy and hold out for exactly what they want. Oh well.

Who told you that? Your mama?
Asians are exceptional in the art and music areas as revealed in the Harvard case as well as sports just not at handful of certain ones like American football or basketball.

https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/medals?utm_campaign=dp_google

Korea, Japan, China all ranked top 10 in the Paris Olympics.

Thank you for proving my point, 12 of the top 15 countries are caucasian countries. That's despite making up a very low percentage of the world population, especially in comparison to asians.

Yeah, but their athletes are black, dude.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

What an incredible fantasy. What a stretch! Well done. How, BTW, did they know the kids were white? I guess in their essays when they wrote about their background as 100% white kids?

You're a clown.

The applicants reported their race as white, you dolt.

Did you even participate in the process this recent season. Even though the Common App collected that data Yale refused to accept it. When you clicked submit you got a big red pop-up screen that announced the university would not be receiving that section of the data. And it wasn't just Yale. It was every application we submitted. All of them. That is how the schools protected themselves from the lawyers. By rejecting race data. They didn't get any.

Dolt?

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These threads are so heavily edited. It’s ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are so heavily edited. It’s ridiculous.

It’s probably because there are so many racist posts being deleted. Quit with the racism and the thread won’t be “heavily edited.”

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Anonymous wrote:So AA did not, in fact, benefit whites after all? Huh. That never would have occurred to me in a million years.

It ALWAYS benefited white women. Nothing about this disputes that.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

What an incredible fantasy. What a stretch! Well done. How, BTW, did they know the kids were white? I guess in their essays when they wrote about their background as 100% white kids?

You're a clown.

The applicants reported their race as white, you dolt.

Did you even participate in the process this recent season. Even though the Common App collected that data Yale refused to accept it. When you clicked submit you got a big red pop-up screen that announced the university would not be receiving that section of the data. And it wasn't just Yale. It was every application we submitted. All of them. That is how the schools protected themselves from the lawyers. By rejecting race data. They didn't get any.

Dolt?

they get the data after admissions. it's not seen during admissions, but it's collected and this is how colleges even have this data

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Anonymous wrote:I spent too much time on the "class of 2028" Yale Instagram page (self reporting by the incoming students) and the students did look very white. Far more so than the other Ivies.

My kid is a reshman and none of their suitemates is white and the floor as a whole seemed.diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

TBH, no one really wants kids who are just 1000% focused on academics without any sporting ability, club membership, leadership positions, creative hobbies. Asian students tend to hyperfocus on academics but it's not really what higher education is supposed to embody in the west

But then why do asians tend to have better extra-curriculars than whites?

Define "better." Better to whom?

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

TBH, no one really wants kids who are just 1000% focused on academics without any sporting ability, club membership, leadership positions, creative hobbies. Asian students tend to hyperfocus on academics but it's not really what higher education is supposed to embody in the west

But then why do asians tend to have better extra-curriculars than whites?

Define "better." Better to whom?

Better to Harvard for sure

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

TBH, no one really wants kids who are just 1000% focused on academics without any sporting ability, club membership, leadership positions, creative hobbies. Asian students tend to hyperfocus on academics but it's not really what higher education is supposed to embody in the west

But then why do asians tend to have better extra-curriculars than whites?

Define "better." Better to whom?

To the harvard admissions committee.

Asians on average rated better on extra-curriculars.

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

TBH, no one really wants kids who are just 1000% focused on academics without any sporting ability, club membership, leadership positions, creative hobbies. Asian students tend to hyperfocus on academics but it's not really what higher education is supposed to embody in the west

But then why do asians tend to have better extra-curriculars than whites?

Define "better." Better to whom?

To the harvard admissions committee.

Asians on average rated better on extra-curriculars.

Like juggling?

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Anonymous wrote:https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2024/09/04/in-first-yale-class-since-the-end-of-affirmative-action-black-and-latine-enrollment-share-remains-stable-while-asian-american-decreases/

Yale it test optional this year plus they changed their admissions criteria to try and pick up more black and hispanic kids. They ended up with more white kids (a class that looks more like the applicant pool.

Exactly what Ed Blum wanted.

He used Asians as pawns.

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Anonymous wrote:Imo "holistic" admissions favors white students because it's based on white standards for what makes for a desirable student. There's an over emphasis on being "well-rounded" as defined by white culture: sports including niche white sports, community service, eagle scouts, etc.

I agree and it also focuses on geographic diversity within the US, which helps white, Christian applicants since it is easier for them to live anywhere.

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I still don't understand what the problem is. I get that elite universities don't have to look like the racial makeup of the US. But 24 percent is still more than 300 percent the 7 percent of the US that is Asian. MIT has issues going the other way, where only 5 percent of their class is black, even though blacks make up close to 13 percent of the US population. And every selective school is way underrepresented by Hispanics, who are presently 19 percent of the population.

People can yammer about test scores, which are important, but private universities remain free to construct classes as they see fit provided there is no overt discrimination against protected classes. And every elite private school wants a broad array of students that can handle the coursework and contribute to the community. It's only been one year since the SC decision so things are going to feel a little chaotic. But no group is owed anything and the universities are doing their best to make sense of the new realities. I'm sure no one is more surprised by the decrease in Asian students to Yale than the Yale administrators themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The gain in "whites" were all Asian or half-Asian kids who claimed to be white in order to circumvent Ivy League admissions racism.

This. I suspect the Asian kids self identified as white so as not to be discriminated against.

Bit white kids can’t self identify as Hispanic…