Bachelorette Jenn -- Finale Spoiler Discussion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was so fake from the beginning.

+1 and followed Maria immediately after the breakup? Come on.

Maria said on her Instagram story today that she has something to say about this and she’s not going to hold back.

That sure sounds like her. Loving the drama!

And she unfollowed Jenn several months ago after Jenn was on a podcast so I am very curious what her view is lol

[Anonymous]

I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

I don't think your take is right.

My take:

Devin goes back to real life and treats his show-mance like it was just play-acting. He bread-crumbs Jenn and isn't responding to her for weeks/months. At some point, she says the stuff about breaking up -- like "maybe we should just break up" since she's tried of being ignored and ghosted. It's not that SHE wants to break up, but she's seeing the situation for what it is: her so-called "fiance" is no longer interested in her. So, what do you expect a logical person to do in that situation? It's not that Jenn ever wanted to end the relationship, but she could see that she was in the relationship pretty much by herself.

Devin is just trying to selectively use bits and pieces of their conversations to make her look bad and make himself less hated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the contestants not realize the end goal of this show is marriage? Seems like most of the men are clueless on this point.

Not clueless. It's just that most of them are willing to play musical chairs and take the good of the show (i.e. publicity, followers, access to more women), in exchange for NOT being the last one left in "the chair" (i.e. they try to get tv exposure as long as possible, and duck out of the running while there is someone else left holding the ring).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

I don't think your take is right.

My take:

Devin goes back to real life and treats his show-mance like it was just play-acting. He bread-crumbs Jenn and isn't responding to her for weeks/months. At some point, she says the stuff about breaking up -- like "maybe we should just break up" since she's tried of being ignored and ghosted. It's not that SHE wants to break up, but she's seeing the situation for what it is: her so-called "fiance" is no longer interested in her. So, what do you expect a logical person to do in that situation? It's not that Jenn ever wanted to end the relationship, but she could see that she was in the relationship pretty much by herself.

Devin is just trying to selectively use bits and pieces of their conversations to make her look bad and make himself less hated.

You just made that up in your head though. Nothing about Jenna’s thinking during the show made her sound alike she would be healthy in a relationship…and using I will break up with you as a manipulation / game is further evidence of that.

I know people love to hate but I have no issue with Devin ending the relationship when it wasn’t healthy for him. Jenn wasn’t in love with him on the show, and clearly the relationship was never a healthy one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

I don't think your take is right.

My take:

Devin goes back to real life and treats his show-mance like it was just play-acting. He bread-crumbs Jenn and isn't responding to her for weeks/months. At some point, she says the stuff about breaking up -- like "maybe we should just break up" since she's tried of being ignored and ghosted. It's not that SHE wants to break up, but she's seeing the situation for what it is: her so-called "fiance" is no longer interested in her. So, what do you expect a logical person to do in that situation? It's not that Jenn ever wanted to end the relationship, but she could see that she was in the relationship pretty much by herself.

Devin is just trying to selectively use bits and pieces of their conversations to make her look bad and make himself less hated.

https://www.justjared.com/2024/09/04/bachelorettes-devin-strader-leaks-alleged-text-messages-with-jenn-tran-after-their-explosive-split-attemps-to-defend-himself/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

I don't think your take is right.

My take:

Devin goes back to real life and treats his show-mance like it was just play-acting. He bread-crumbs Jenn and isn't responding to her for weeks/months. At some point, she says the stuff about breaking up -- like "maybe we should just break up" since she's tried of being ignored and ghosted. It's not that SHE wants to break up, but she's seeing the situation for what it is: her so-called "fiance" is no longer interested in her. So, what do you expect a logical person to do in that situation? It's not that Jenn ever wanted to end the relationship, but she could see that she was in the relationship pretty much by herself.

Devin is just trying to selectively use bits and pieces of their conversations to make her look bad and make himself less hated.

Nice creative writing exercise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was all team Jenn during the finale but those texts really make it seem like she threatened to break up with him multiple times and he probably just finally had it.

I don't think your take is right.

My take:

Devin goes back to real life and treats his show-mance like it was just play-acting. He bread-crumbs Jenn and isn't responding to her for weeks/months. At some point, she says the stuff about breaking up -- like "maybe we should just break up" since she's tried of being ignored and ghosted. It's not that SHE wants to break up, but she's seeing the situation for what it is: her so-called "fiance" is no longer interested in her. So, what do you expect a logical person to do in that situation? It's not that Jenn ever wanted to end the relationship, but she could see that she was in the relationship pretty much by herself.

Devin is just trying to selectively use bits and pieces of their conversations to make her look bad and make himself less hated.

You just made that up in your head though. Nothing about Jenna’s thinking during the show made her sound alike she would be healthy in a relationship…and using I will break up with you as a manipulation / game is further evidence of that.

I know people love to hate but I have no issue with Devin ending the relationship when it wasn’t healthy for him. Jenn wasn’t in love with him on the show, and clearly the relationship was never a healthy one.

Yes, I provided a realistic scenario based on all the information we have. Jenn said he ghosted her after they left Hawaii. He admitted that. Devin puts up clips of Jenn's texts saying they should break up. The through line is that Devin left the relationship (he admits that) and that he supposedly had doubts when he agreed to marry her and asked her to marry him. So, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see that Jenn was getting tired of his absence and finally said something about breaking up. You cannot convince me that Devin is the victim in this. His action caused Jenn to think that they were breaking up. She was just the first to say it based on Devin abandoning the relationship (He admits abandoning the relationship).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was so fake from the beginning.

+1 and followed Maria immediately after the breakup? Come on.

Maria said on her Instagram story today that she has something to say about this and she’s not going to hold back.

My DD's theory is that the majority of guys went into this season thinking the Bachelorette was going to be Maria, so when it wasn't, the interest wasn't there.
She and her friends all felt horrible/ complicit having to watch Jenn reliving the proposal, and she's currently ambivalent about watching future seasons.

[Anonymous]

I have never seen anyone let go of all the guys with so little emotion or sympathy as Jenn, so it was hard for me to feel much sympathy for her in return during the finale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He fought for her all season then felt he wasn’t good enough once they were back home. Classic self destructive behavior.

Or he is just a phony baloney who wanted to win. My take.

Mine too. With his excuses at the end

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the only logical explanation is that Devin had a relationship before going on the show. While he was in the show-bubble, he bought into it hook/line/sinker. Then he went back to his normal life and did a "what happens in Vegas (i.e. Hawaii) stays in Vegas" switch. He was back to reality and the showmance was over....it didn't fit with his regular life.

Either he had a girlfriend that he went back to, or he is a sociopath who deserves an acting contract for being THAT immersed in his tv character. Either way, he's toxic.

I don’t think that’s the only explanation. I’m going with the explanation that he’s engaging in Self-destructive behavior. There were some text messages between the two that were released to a reality TV blogger today. Jen has not denied them. Basically Jen threatened to break up with him and over text message she says she was “just overreacting” and didn’t mean it. Not blaming her, but theres definitely two sides of the story. She’s threatening to break up with him because he’s not acting how she wants, then of course hes gonna feel like he’s not enough for her, which is what he told the whole world last night.

He released text messages. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

The texts don't really show anything other than that they had obviously had a rough go/had discussed breaking up. Things were too hard for both and that's now how things should be especially in the honeymoon phase of having just met.

I wouldn't have agreed to rolling the tape if I was Jenn. I'd have no need to see it after I saw who he really was- as it is embarrassing that she couldn't see how superficial/manipulative/smarmy he was. She should have just believed the other men on the show who had issues with him. At one point she said 'do we have a choice?' when Jesse asked about rolling tape. I'd have excused myself- but a PP is right that they've never NOT shown the proposal- and this isn't the first couple to be broken up before the episode airs.

I hope I don't have to see this guys bumpy creepy lips and gummy smile ever again. He looks like a creep. He is a creep. I can't imagine him and Maria being together- so much teeth and lips and sociopathy- barf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was so fake from the beginning.

+1 and followed Maria immediately after the breakup? Come on.

+2

He was doing everything for attention and shock value. He wanted his 15 minutes of fame. He’s fake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The texts don't really show anything other than that they had obviously had a rough go/had discussed breaking up. Things were too hard for both and that's now how things should be especially in the honeymoon phase of having just met.

I wouldn't have agreed to rolling the tape if I was Jenn. I'd have no need to see it after I saw who he really was- as it is embarrassing that she couldn't see how superficial/manipulative/smarmy he was. She should have just believed the other men on the show who had issues with him. At one point she said 'do we have a choice?' when Jesse asked about rolling tape. I'd have excused myself- but a PP is right that they've never NOT shown the proposal- and this isn't the first couple to be broken up before the episode airs.

I hope I don't have to see this guys bumpy creepy lips and gummy smile ever again. He looks like a creep. He is a creep. I can't imagine him and Maria being together- so much teeth and lips and sociopathy- barf.

Disagree- it shows Jen knows there were major issues and she was unhappy.