MYS Boy's ECLN parent sends mass email to entire MYS program?

[Anonymous]

What Union? Did you not get the email? SYC-MYS merger for Union null & void. Time to check your Spam folder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the TLDR- Email is sent saying Boys program sucks so Union has to merge with BRAVE. Boys are just mad because they can't handle the truth and they don't want to play with BRAVE players/fear they are going to get cut and there is no ECNL program for them to go to. The reality is a lot of these boys will have to end up playing ECNL RL or that level of play. There's no money boys program for these boys to go to now.

BOYS ECNL for Union and Brave was literally just paying $$$ to be treated like a top player when in reality they all sucked

The email was great and called the club on its BS employment practices and corruption. Anybody who has 10 kids going through a program has a right to call out the facts--and he did just that.

MYS just summarily kicked to the curb nearly all of its boys coaches (who objectively have stronger records than their Brave counterparts who got the job). When a older boys BRAVE coach loses a single soccer game by 17 goals and a goal differential of -40+ , it needs to be a disqualifier for coaching high level teams. No objective rubric was used to assign coaches to teams--it was nepotism at its best. Boys now have Brave 'parent' coaches in charge of teams, and also former girls coaches-WTF?

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. MYS sold the entire boys side of the club under the table because they were too incompetent to ask questions. As for the ED and TD- their legacy is the now the club's total decimation in both reputation and talent. Bravo.

[Anonymous]

I have been a McLean parent for years and the email made me extremely uncomfortable. The author is using inflammatory language (like "willingly destroying" the boys program) and complaining about club-wide emails with "so much disinformation" as though there is some kind of conspiracy here. He, or someone with his same views and tone, then further fanned the flames on the other 100-plus page thread (that I am sure is about to get locked) and peppered his messages with constant ad hominem arguments, calling any poster who disagreed dumb.

I don't see a conspiracy here. MYS sent a pretty straightforward bland message to all ECNL and ECNL regional parents explaining that the push for the merger came from above because the boys program has been under-performing. How you take that email and make it into a conspiracy is beyond me.

Also, I have no idea whether in a situation like this it is normal to consult the technical director. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Of course we can all understand why the technical director is upset. But on the other thread, the conspiracy posters flat-out lied and said he was fired when he is choosing not to return.

There is nothing weird or conspiratorial about the merger. All of our kids have go through disappointments in childhood. I know mine have and it is painful to watch. But the reaction to this merger had been strange and alienating.

[Anonymous]

So... this guy just spammed an open distro list for an entire club with his opinion? If so, that's hilarious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband received an email from a parent who's boys play on the MYS ECNL teams last night. Our kids do not, just normal travel. But, apparently he was BCCed on this and the email was addressed to the entire MYS board of directors for the horrible decision to merge with Vienna and Braddock. Did any other MYS parent receive it?

We're a little confused because our kids don't play ECLN. Wondered how she obtained our email. With that said her email was elaborate and detailed. Seems MYS's directors have some answering to do. What drama. Glad we plan on keeping our kids in normal travel!

There's been a lot of discussion of the pros/cons of the MYS / Vienna / BRYC issue, but I haven't seen a well-reasoned, elaborate, detailed explanation of them. If there's nothing insulting or otherwise inappropriate in the email, I would be interested in reading this concerned parents' views on the merits of the merger, so consider posting the contents of the email (at least the relevant parts).

Wonder why Stoddert or whatever it is called now is not included?

Stoddert families just graduate to BSC or stop playing soccer in HS, don't think there is a pipeline there. If someone could get kids from the east side of DC then you have some talent, but those families barely want to go Arlington or Alexandria. DC proper is not cut out for any of these brand leagues. But man is there talent there, if only DC united had an academy in DC

Coach a hs level club team in dc currently, it’s kinda sad. We have had to poach players from open goal and other dc clubs just to survive thru u18. We just beat Potomac encl rl and almost tied Celtic rl this weekend. True there is talent. But the lack of facilities keep kids from taking it serious. I’ve lost basically my entire starting XI to other clubs…Md united, sac, syc, other clubs..which is fine, kids wanna go on and do their thing. But it’s kinda sad bc I always felt like…we need a competitive club in dc/surrounding areas of dc without having to go all the way to arlington or Alexandria.

Stoddart/dcsc is going ECNL. I would be happy keeping a team together in EDP NL we play really competitive teams, but it’s almost impossible to keep a team together in a market like dc because so many players leave and even have coaches taking majority of players to other clubs out in moco.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So... this guy just spammed an open distro list for an entire club with his opinion? If so, that's hilarious.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband received an email from a parent who's boys play on the MYS ECNL teams last night. Our kids do not, just normal travel. But, apparently he was BCCed on this and the email was addressed to the entire MYS board of directors for the horrible decision to merge with Vienna and Braddock. Did any other MYS parent receive it?

We're a little confused because our kids don't play ECLN. Wondered how she obtained our email. With that said her email was elaborate and detailed. Seems MYS's directors have some answering to do. What drama. Glad we plan on keeping our kids in normal travel!

There's been a lot of discussion of the pros/cons of the MYS / Vienna / BRYC issue, but I haven't seen a well-reasoned, elaborate, detailed explanation of them. If there's nothing insulting or otherwise inappropriate in the email, I would be interested in reading this concerned parents' views on the merits of the merger, so consider posting the contents of the email (at least the relevant parts).

Wonder why Stoddert or whatever it is called now is not included?

Stoddert families just graduate to BSC or stop playing soccer in HS, don't think there is a pipeline there. If someone could get kids from the east side of DC then you have some talent, but those families barely want to go Arlington or Alexandria. DC proper is not cut out for any of these brand leagues. But man is there talent there, if only DC united had an academy in DC

Coach a hs level club team in dc currently, it’s kinda sad. We have had to poach players from open goal and other dc clubs just to survive thru u18. We just beat Potomac encl rl and almost tied Celtic rl this weekend. True there is talent. But the lack of facilities keep kids from taking it serious. I’ve lost basically my entire starting XI to other clubs…Md united, sac, syc, other clubs..which is fine, kids wanna go on and do their thing. But it’s kinda sad bc I always felt like…we need a competitive club in dc/surrounding areas of dc without having to go all the way to arlington or Alexandria.

Stoddart/dcsc is going ECNL. I would be happy keeping a team together in EDP NL we play really competitive teams, but it’s almost impossible to keep a team together in a market like dc because so many players leave and even have coaches taking majority of players to other clubs out in moco.

We are in DC and agree; it’s tough. We are looking at other clubs in VA and MD. We are not moved by DCSC ECNL-RL but wonder if that might keep some kids in DC from moving to clubs the suburbs.

[Anonymous]

DCSC getting RL isn't a huge upgrade for them, there weren't many alternatives but also hurts them because VPSL sits out in the spring and DC schools follow MD sports schedules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the TLDR- Email is sent saying Boys program sucks so Union has to merge with BRAVE. Boys are just mad because they can't handle the truth and they don't want to play with BRAVE players/fear they are going to get cut and there is no ECNL program for them to go to. The reality is a lot of these boys will have to end up playing ECNL RL or that level of play. There's no money boys program for these boys to go to now.

BOYS ECNL for Union and Brave was literally just paying $$$ to be treated like a top player when in reality they all sucked

First off, all of these kids don't suck. Some do; some don't.

But I do love the self-importance of some people to send a letter like this. This is why this merger is happening. Because parents like this; they feel like they paid all this money and should have a spot for their boy and/or girl on the top team. This is not how the world works. You perform and develop or you loose your place. ECNL wants teams that develop players. For years, Union/Mclean has acted like their teams were filled with 30 amazing players and our bench players are as good as our starters. When in reality, there are only 4 or 5 decent to good players on any boys team at Union

I personally know 4 boys who have gotten offers from Union, but choose other clubs because of the lack of "good" players on Union. I've also known boys who have left because they knew they were better than the boys who were getting the predominance of playing time. So, they decided to tryout for other teams and they are now playing on Arlington ECNL-N, Arlington MLS Next, and SYC MLS Next

My boy is a player of one of the higher age groups and this merger affects him. Will he make the new team? Yes, he will because he is a top player. If he wasn't at one of the oldest age groups, he would push harder to get onto Arlington, NVA or SYC. But since he knows his playing time would be limited on these other teams, he doesn't have the convenience of much time to fight to become a starter, and he realizes college coaches recruit players and not teams. So, he will start for Fairfax Union and get seen by college coaches because he wants to play D1.

And this whole merger doesn't affect any player that was being recruited by any big D1 soccer schools. In fact, it helps those players. They can prove they beat out another whole group of players to be a starter on a new team. A team that is pulling from one of the largest soccer population pools in the country.

For the players that aren't being recruited by the big schools, they never were going to be. They aren't good enough and never were. But they do have options as they are good enough to play on a team at a D2 or D3 school.

Fairfax Union should consist of a team with 6/7 good players from BRAVE, 6/7 good players from Union, plus the 6-7 good players that are going to try out. ECNL will have a better product. And maybe, with time, Fairfax Union will be thought of like Arlington, Pipeline, Richmond United, and NCFC.

See you at tryouts! FxU Forever!!

Let's get real. Nobody is being recruited by a "serious D1 program".

[Anonymous]

You're right... it's a "super duper serious" D1 program.

[Anonymous]

Parents with good players on serious teams are looking at these 598 ECNL/Virginia teams merger posts in bewilderment

[Anonymous]

Boys parents are delusional- the two main coaches JW and AP were already on the way out way before the merger was done. These coaches just don't want you to know that so they can make it seem like they got unfairly let go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the TLDR- Email is sent saying Boys program sucks so Union has to merge with BRAVE. Boys are just mad because they can't handle the truth and they don't want to play with BRAVE players/fear they are going to get cut and there is no ECNL program for them to go to. The reality is a lot of these boys will have to end up playing ECNL RL or that level of play. There's no money boys program for these boys to go to now.

BOYS ECNL for Union and Brave was literally just paying $$$ to be treated like a top player when in reality they all sucked

First off, all of these kids don't suck. Some do; some don't.

But I do love the self-importance of some people to send a letter like this. This is why this merger is happening. Because parents like this; they feel like they paid all this money and should have a spot for their boy and/or girl on the top team. This is not how the world works. You perform and develop or you loose your place. ECNL wants teams that develop players. For years, Union/Mclean has acted like their teams were filled with 30 amazing players and our bench players are as good as our starters. When in reality, there are only 4 or 5 decent to good players on any boys team at Union

I personally know 4 boys who have gotten offers from Union, but choose other clubs because of the lack of "good" players on Union. I've also known boys who have left because they knew they were better than the boys who were getting the predominance of playing time. So, they decided to tryout for other teams and they are now playing on Arlington ECNL-N, Arlington MLS Next, and SYC MLS Next

My boy is a player of one of the higher age groups and this merger affects him. Will he make the new team? Yes, he will because he is a top player. If he wasn't at one of the oldest age groups, he would push harder to get onto Arlington, NVA or SYC. But since he knows his playing time would be limited on these other teams, he doesn't have the convenience of much time to fight to become a starter, and he realizes college coaches recruit players and not teams. So, he will start for Fairfax Union and get seen by college coaches because he wants to play D1.

And this whole merger doesn't affect any player that was being recruited by any big D1 soccer schools. In fact, it helps those players. They can prove they beat out another whole group of players to be a starter on a new team. A team that is pulling from one of the largest soccer population pools in the country.

For the players that aren't being recruited by the big schools, they never were going to be. They aren't good enough and never were. But they do have options as they are good enough to play on a team at a D2 or D3 school.

Fairfax Union should consist of a team with 6/7 good players from BRAVE, 6/7 good players from Union, plus the 6-7 good players that are going to try out. ECNL will have a better product. And maybe, with time, Fairfax Union will be thought of like Arlington, Pipeline, Richmond United, and NCFC.

See you at tryouts! FxU Forever!!

Let's get real. Nobody is being recruited by a "serious D1 program".

Thanks for supporting my point.

[Anonymous]

This all makes Brave and MV seem rather sublime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This all makes Brave and MV seem rather sublime.

This ⬆️ . Had no idea that McLean was this level crazy and nasty! The comments on these threads directing so many arrogant, unkind and ugly comments towards their very own neighbors: other teams’ players (kids!), coaches and their community club. It’s a whole other level of low.