Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

NP. One reason I don’t like DEI is because of how appallingly and casually ageist its proponents are.

+1. Also, that PP was responding to me. I’m 43. And African American.

I wonder how long it will be until the PP you responded to claims that you can’t possibly be African American. Even though she is almost certainly white.

Yeah I’ve given up on anyone on DCUM believing that I am. It’s comically racist actually.

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the only racists left are the anti-racists and the DEI crowd.

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when did they add the B and what does it mean? i know it stands for belonging but how is that different than inclusion?

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Anonymous wrote:when did they add the B and what does it mean? i know it stands for belonging but how is that different than inclusion?

Pay me $$$$$$ and I’ll come give a training session to your faculty and share these deep secrets.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

NP. One reason I don’t like DEI is because of how appallingly and casually ageist its proponents are.

+1. Also, that PP was responding to me. I’m 43. And African American.

I wonder how long it will be until the PP you responded to claims that you can’t possibly be African American. Even though she is almost certainly white.

Yeah I’ve given up on anyone on DCUM believing that I am. It’s comically racist actually.

I believe you, but I have lifelong friends and family who are African American (some prefer Black; I use what they prefer). I think a lot of the hardline progressive posters on DCUM don’t have any close relationships with people who aren’t white.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

It's not happening. I promise that nobody is indoctrinating kids to not be racist. It's weird thing to be bothered about.

Oh sweetie, didn’t you know? It’s not enough to “not be racist.” That’s actually SUPER racist. You have to be “anti-racist.”

It's this right here that wild. This person is complaining that being against racism is an extreme position. I see this a lot and I don't understand

lol. Being an anti-racist is not the same as being against racism. Please reread Kendi’s textbook.

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Sorry, I was a little busy.

I still believe none of you. You have one commenter saying that his law firm job forced him to read a book. Another that says the entire curriculum has been initiated with DEIB. Since other people are just saying, they don't like it because of ageism.

It's clear that most of you are trolling. But it's so bothersome that it's so effective.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

Are you a bazillion years old and really out of touch with what’s going on? Because it sounds like it.

The Heritage Foundation put out a proslavery
curriculum and parents seen to have less issue with that than DEIB.

No, it didn’t.

Google.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

+1

Add in the boys competing in girls sports..in our public school a boy made the girls volleyball team. If they hadn’t made cuts, I would be OK with this, but alas, girls were cut for a girls’ team sport while a boy was allowed on the team.

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Anonymous wrote:when did they add the B and what does it mean? i know it stands for belonging but how is that different than inclusion?

Pay me $$$$$$ and I’ll come give a training session to your faculty and share these deep secrets.

Inclusion usually refers to people with disabilities. Belonging is about making everyone like everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I was a little busy.

I still believe none of you. You have one commenter saying that his law firm job forced him to read a book. Another that says the entire curriculum has been initiated with DEIB. Since other people are just saying, they don't like it because of ageism.

It's clear that most of you are trolling. But it's so bothersome that it's so effective.

So, you aren’t interested in any opinions that aren’t lockstep identical to yours.

Are you inadvertently trying to demonstrate why people have some concerns about how DEI works in practice in education? You’ve provided a good example of why people are skeptical of current DEI teachings: demands for absolute belief heterodoxy.

I also don’t believe you are close to anyone or have any family who are not white.

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I have two friends who are DEI Directors. One is Mexican and one is Black, both are brilliant, and both are asking to be given another title, any other title. They are both disillusioned with the direction that DEI has been taking, believing it to be more divisive than helpful, and rooted in a lot of faulty assumptions and misguided views on history. These are two of the smartest, most thoughtful people I know. I think the gung-ho unquestioning DEI philosophy adherents are not particularly deep thinkers and are missing a lot of the nuance and downside and how it actually disadvantages some of the very same people it’s supposed to be helping.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two friends who are DEI Directors. One is Mexican and one is Black, both are brilliant, and both are asking to be given another title, any other title. They are both disillusioned with the direction that DEI has been taking, believing it to be more divisive than helpful, and rooted in a lot of faulty assumptions and misguided views on history. These are two of the smartest, most thoughtful people I know. I think the gung-ho unquestioning DEI philosophy adherents are not particularly deep thinkers and are missing a lot of the nuance and downside and how it actually disadvantages some of the very same people it’s supposed to be helping.

Wanting a change in title is different than saying we dont need DEI

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

You sound insane. The PP above was talking about major law firms. No one is making those comments in 2024 and yes you would be fired if you did.

My firm has just issued a final warning to an associate. From the eye rolls and drunk comments - it does happen in 2024, in DC no less.

Depending on next week his last pay check might be issued next month.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

You sound insane. The PP above was talking about major law firms. No one is making those comments in 2024 and yes you would be fired if you did.

My firm has just issued a final warning to an associate. From the eye rolls and drunk comments - it does happen in 2024, in DC no less.

Depending on next week his last pay check might be issued next month.

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