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Such a weird way for her to think? Not every day is 8 hours billable is it? Some days you have firm business, or pro bono work or something right? Those days would be less billable. I mean billable means submitted to the client, so this would be 3 days the firm is paying salary and the income that would have been those billable to client, which is a huge number. |
Oh that's great news - glad to hear it. People blame the poster because (1) there's a lot of judgey people here, and (2) they feel like if they can figure out what someone else did wrong it insulates them from ever making a mistake or getting hurt |
This is why the job is tough. I didn’t find the work that difficult and I actually enjoyed my practice area. But billing time as the only metric that really matters means the only thing that really matters is your time. That is all they care about. Which is understandable given how they compensate. For many people, it isn’t worth it, especially once you have kids. |
That makes no sense. It isn’t billable work. At the end of the day, that is all big firms care about. The amount you bill that they can collect. The end. |
1800 hours a year, over 48 weeks, is about 37 hrs a week. If you are efficient that should be easy to hit, and keep you to a 50 hour work week. They don’t care about kids, or sleep, or grandparents (and a grandparent dying is such a normal event, you would have had very little recourse — no one cared when my mom died in her 50s, and I work in a far more family friendly corp). Yea, most big law partners have a SAH partner; it sounds like yours isn’t pulling their weight at home so you probably should look for other employment, that is fairly common. |
But you were an associate right, so had no demands from juniors, BD work, etc? You just had your piles of work from partner and plowed through, almost every hour at work billable? Still hard with 47 hr needed to be billable, hats off. |
You got paid; you just didn't get credit for billable hours you didn't bill. If you had a formal arrangement to work part-time, your eligibility for a bonus likely would be based on pro-rated hours that reflect an adjusted schedule. But if you missed a billable hours target because of taking unscheduled bereavement leave, those are the breaks. If you make a fuss about it, you'll just come across as a schmuck. |
Billable hours expectation was 1950 three years ago. ~80% billable efficiency (37/50) is high for non-litigation/non-deal practice groups. Some of us actually want to see our kids. I knew a Big Law partner who bragged she never put her kids to bed the nannies did. Another set of Big Law parents I know ship their three kids to their grandparents for weeks at a time whenever they can.. |
OK; you're lucky. |
Look, I’m trying to help you. Being defensive won’t help your situation. I never asked anyone to look up to me. This is how I did it. I delayed having children to my late 30s. I worked my @ss off and was the highest billing associate in my entire firm one year. I stayed late, I worked weekends, and if something came up on vacation I handled it. IT’S THE JOB. You are getting paid a premium. If you want better hours go to the fed or inhouse (not being snarky). I was very aware of what my billable and receivables were every week. I kept track (my firm was super transparent). They also told us what our overhead was and how we didn’t turn a profit for them until we collected over our overhead. It’s a business. It’s the real world. Life’s not fair. I wish it were easier. I get no joy out of younger associates having to make the same sacrifices. But I want young women to have better business sense and a better grasp of their employment situation. I wish the best for you. |
High five. Transparency is great. |
PP here (who wrote “serious question”) - I don’t disagree with anything you said above. My spouse is a GS 15 and does about 50% at home. The problem is that most women are uncomfortable outsourcing all childcare to their spouse, in a way that men with SAH wives are not. A very wise (male) partner pointed this out to me very early on. Now that I have kids, I realize he’s right. But - importantly - I don’t think women’s attitudes are the problem here. Nobody should feel comfortable spending such little time with their kids, no matter how much money they make. So the entire biglaw model is unworkable (to the extent others agree with me - and I think many in my generation do). It’s sad because sure, I can and will leave, but I like the work and I’m very good at it. |
I don’t think it is sad. I liked the work and was good at it. I left. The ones who stayed were willing to put more time in to the job. Good for them. We all have choices. Make them according to how you want your life to be. |
I appreciate this. |
Most men with Big Jobs are very comfortable spending little time with their kids. |