What's the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The fact that you took time to craft this lengthy post is alarming. I gave up after the first paragraph. So yeah, some dog owners are inconsiderate - nothing new to report there. It doesn't really matter that this is about dog owners - jerky people are that way in general, and I run into many of them every day... driving, shopping, at work....

Read it or don't read it, it doesn't make people who do this stuff any better. I'd rather live next to 100 people writing lengthy screeds about bad dog owners on the internet than a single bad dog owner.

Not me. People who write lengthy screeds like this often have many other . . . issues, let's say, that may make them much worse neighbors than a bad dog owner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

You want the dog owner to stop and chat with you while their dog is barking and lunging at you? No you move away and let the owner talk to the dog. M and if the dog is on a leash it is by definition under control. Sometimes dogs are afraid and they try to lunge and bark to keep the scary thing away. It doea not mean the owner isn't trying

Yes I think you should acknowledge the HUMAN BEING being threatened. No, leashed dogs are not inherently under control of the owner of the owner is a moron.

So your issue is the passerby wasn't properly soothed by the dog owner? OK, I guess, snowflake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. The fact that you took time to craft this lengthy post is alarming. I gave up after the first paragraph. So yeah, some dog owners are inconsiderate - nothing new to report there. It doesn't really matter that this is about dog owners - jerky people are that way in general, and I run into many of them every day... driving, shopping, at work....

Read it or don't read it, it doesn't make people who do this stuff any better. I'd rather live next to 100 people writing lengthy screeds about bad dog owners on the internet than a single bad dog owner.

Why don’t you confront these bad dog owners then? That will be more effective than spending your time here moaning about it.

Because they will "accidentally" let their dog injure me.

Bad dog owners are bad people.

OK, we've devolved into full blown tin foil hat mode.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

First, it sounds like this particular dog was under control. Second, what do to think the owner should have done?

DP but a dog who is lunging at people who walk by on the sidewalk is not under control. I mean, better for that dog to be on a leash than not, but dogs who consistently pull at leashes and respond to bystanders by lunging, growling, or barking are not properly socialized.

And in a civilized society, if your dog lunges at and growls at someone, you should at least acknowledge that person and mumble an apology or something. It's fine to attend to your dog, but your dog is threatening a person. Imagine if a large child behaved in this way, lunging at or growling at a stranger on the street, and their parent just ignored that persona and just chatted with their kid like it had not happened. Would you feel reassured? Safe?

Pretend we live in a society and our well-being is interconnected and we all owe each other a basic duty of care.

So you advocate while the dog is being trained, it . . . not go on walks?

It sounds like the owner had control of the dog, and after it lunged at the PP, he or she attended to the dog (in other words, spoke to it). If you're really getting twisted up about this, you are just looking to be mad.

Actually, if the dog in question was in the process of being trained, it is even more important that the person walking him communicate that to the other person. You say "sorry, he's still being socialized, you may want to keep your distance." This is what a responsible dog owner who is in the process of leash training/socializing a new dog would do.

But more likely, it was someone who has no idea how to train or socialize the dog, is used to the dog pulling on the leash and behaving aggressively towards others, and therefore it didn't even occur to them to say anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

First, it sounds like this particular dog was under control. Second, what do to think the owner should have done?

DP but a dog who is lunging at people who walk by on the sidewalk is not under control. I mean, better for that dog to be on a leash than not, but dogs who consistently pull at leashes and respond to bystanders by lunging, growling, or barking are not properly socialized.

And in a civilized society, if your dog lunges at and growls at someone, you should at least acknowledge that person and mumble an apology or something. It's fine to attend to your dog, but your dog is threatening a person. Imagine if a large child behaved in this way, lunging at or growling at a stranger on the street, and their parent just ignored that persona and just chatted with their kid like it had not happened. Would you feel reassured? Safe?

Pretend we live in a society and our well-being is interconnected and we all owe each other a basic duty of care.

So you advocate while the dog is being trained, it . . . not go on walks?

It sounds like the owner had control of the dog, and after it lunged at the PP, he or she attended to the dog (in other words, spoke to it). If you're really getting twisted up about this, you are just looking to be mad.

Actually, if the dog in question was in the process of being trained, it is even more important that the person walking him communicate that to the other person. You say "sorry, he's still being socialized, you may want to keep your distance." This is what a responsible dog owner who is in the process of leash training/socializing a new dog would do.

But more likely, it was someone who has no idea how to train or socialize the dog, is used to the dog pulling on the leash and behaving aggressively towards others, and therefore it didn't even occur to them to say anything.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

You want the dog owner to stop and chat with you while their dog is barking and lunging at you? No you move away and let the owner talk to the dog. M and if the dog is on a leash it is by definition under control. Sometimes dogs are afraid and they try to lunge and bark to keep the scary thing away. It doea not mean the owner isn't trying

Yes I think you should acknowledge the HUMAN BEING being threatened. No, leashed dogs are not inherently under control of the owner of the owner is a moron.

So your issue is the passerby wasn't properly soothed by the dog owner? OK, I guess, snowflake.

If you were wondering if there is overlap between crappy dog owners and people who are MAGA, there's a hint in this comment.

[Anonymous]

The few people I know like this are all some kind of special needs. I didn't diagnose them, they told me, and were surprised I didn't figure it out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was also on a trail recently and noticed where dog owners had cleaned up after their animals and left the plastic bag full of feces on a log or somewhere near the trail. What possesses them to this? I mean thanks for picking up the dog turds I guess and preserving them in plastic for eternity in the woods. I hate you.

People often clean up after their dog, leave the bag on the trail, and then pick it up when returning home (rather than carry a bag of poop a couple miles). I've got no issue with that.

And they just as often do not return to pick it up. I do have an issue with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. The fact that you took time to craft this lengthy post is alarming. I gave up after the first paragraph. So yeah, some dog owners are inconsiderate - nothing new to report there. It doesn't really matter that this is about dog owners - jerky people are that way in general, and I run into many of them every day... driving, shopping, at work....

Read it or don't read it, it doesn't make people who do this stuff any better. I'd rather live next to 100 people writing lengthy screeds about bad dog owners on the internet than a single bad dog owner.

Not me. People who write lengthy screeds like this often have many other . . . issues, let's say, that may make them much worse neighbors than a bad dog owner.

Such as?

A long winded neighbor you can avoid or bow out of conversations with. Even if they somehow got your email address and started sending you long, annoying emails, you could just delete them. I've lived around lots of complainers and while sometime it's irritating, it's among the mildest neighbor nuisances. You just learn to wave and not stop walking. It's a life skill.

An aggressive, loud dog whose owner refuses to train or control him is going to impact you every single day until they move. I know because I've been there. If they don't properly take care of the dog's feces, it's even worse. The bad dog owners is second only to "crackpot conspiracy theorist" in terms of bad neighbor rankings. Oh, except jokes on you, because the crackpot conspiracy theorist obviously has a couple "guard dogs" in the yard who bark all day long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

You want the dog owner to stop and chat with you while their dog is barking and lunging at you? No you move away and let the owner talk to the dog. M and if the dog is on a leash it is by definition under control. Sometimes dogs are afraid and they try to lunge and bark to keep the scary thing away. It doea not mean the owner isn't trying

Yes I think you should acknowledge the HUMAN BEING being threatened. No, leashed dogs are not inherently under control of the owner of the owner is a moron.

So your issue is the passerby wasn't properly soothed by the dog owner? OK, I guess, snowflake.

You are also a douche

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not reading all that.

I'm happy for you.

Or I'm sorry that happened to you.

Yet you take the time to post. You are also a problem.

[Anonymous]

I don't acknowledge inconsiderate dog owners, when walking by them in Alexandria.Stone faced, if not shaking my head with a glade.

I do smile, acknowledge the (rare) good ones. They're out there, but they're not common. Thank you to the dog owners who put in the work and responsibility.

I'm so tired of the dog owners who use long leashes, don't keep their dogs under control, let them pee on people's lawns, don't pick up, and are just all around inconsiderate jerkwads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal.

First, it sounds like this particular dog was under control. Second, what do to think the owner should have done?

DP but a dog who is lunging at people who walk by on the sidewalk is not under control. I mean, better for that dog to be on a leash than not, but dogs who consistently pull at leashes and respond to bystanders by lunging, growling, or barking are not properly socialized.

And in a civilized society, if your dog lunges at and growls at someone, you should at least acknowledge that person and mumble an apology or something. It's fine to attend to your dog, but your dog is threatening a person. Imagine if a large child behaved in this way, lunging at or growling at a stranger on the street, and their parent just ignored that persona and just chatted with their kid like it had not happened. Would you feel reassured? Safe?

Pretend we live in a society and our well-being is interconnected and we all owe each other a basic duty of care.

So you advocate while the dog is being trained, it . . . not go on walks?

It sounds like the owner had control of the dog, and after it lunged at the PP, he or she attended to the dog (in other words, spoke to it). If you're really getting twisted up about this, you are just looking to be mad.

Actually, if the dog in question was in the process of being trained, it is even more important that the person walking him communicate that to the other person. You say "sorry, he's still being socialized, you may want to keep your distance." This is what a responsible dog owner who is in the process of leash training/socializing a new dog would do.

But more likely, it was someone who has no idea how to train or socialize the dog, is used to the dog pulling on the leash and behaving aggressively towards others, and therefore it didn't even occur to them to say anything.

dp If you truly have a dog that lunges and barks at another person what you said is way too much. If my dog did that I would need ALL of my attention on my dog to get him away from you. Why don't you get that? The majority of dog owners who have reactive dogs already feel shame and blamed for their dogs' behavior. We honestly don't need to worry about stranger's opinions. Just kindly move out of the way and go about your day. Let me talk to my dog and not you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was also on a trail recently and noticed where dog owners had cleaned up after their animals and left the plastic bag full of feces on a log or somewhere near the trail. What possesses them to this? I mean thanks for picking up the dog turds I guess and preserving them in plastic for eternity in the woods. I hate you.

Maybe they were going to pick it up on the way out of the trail? I have done this.

You’re a douche

Why? I bag it and pick it up to throw away. Btw, I no longer go on trails because of unleashed dogs but that is another story.

I am not a douche because I've only done this once or twice in 15 years. I always pick up my dog poop even if he poops where no one is.

You on the other hand for calling someone a douche is perhaps one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't acknowledge inconsiderate dog owners, when walking by them in Alexandria.Stone faced, if not shaking my head with a glade.

I do smile, acknowledge the (rare) good ones. They're out there, but they're not common. Thank you to the dog owners who put in the work and responsibility.

I'm so tired of the dog owners who use long leashes, don't keep their dogs under control, let them pee on people's lawns, don't pick up, and are just all around inconsiderate jerkwads.

Are there jerk dog owners? Of course. Just like there are jerk humans. But, if I am honest if I am struggling with my dog I don't need your approval or disapproval. I am doing my best with my anxious dog and your opinion does not factor.