What's the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners*

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

I've called animal control on people in DC and they are responsive. Also tickets for noise nuisance caused by barking dogs in DC are $300 and I've seen them issue one based on neighbors keeping a log of barking or recording the barking. It doesn't have to go on for hours, either. It could be 20 minutes of it's loud and annoying enough, or happens more than once.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

I think this is totally valid -- dogs that aren't well controlled pose a danger and it's totally fair to be critical of owners who don't control them for that reason. It's not criticizing for its own sake.

But also some of us are critical of bad dog owners because we genuinely feel bad for the dogs. Both the dogs who have crap owners who don't get them the care/exercise/training they need, and also the dogs of good owners who have deal with those out of control dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

Yep same. I don’t give a good gosh darn about your stupid dog, I care about people who are affected by your bad behavior.

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- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

If you think that all barking is aggressive, you don't understand dogs and your opinions are basically worthless.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

If you think that all barking is aggressive, you don't understand dogs and your opinions are basically worthless.

Literally no one on this thread has said "all barking is aggressive."

Excessive barking is a nuisance whether it's aggressive or not. I mean, legally, excessive barking is a nuisance even if the dog is just happy and excited. No one wants to listen to your dog bark all day long.

The only opinion here that is "basically worthless" is the straw man you built.

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NP. I completely agree with you. For context I don’t have a dog now but have had multiple over the years. Every single one was so well-trained I could control them with hand signals. In permitted off leash areas, if I whistled once, and gave the hand signal, my dogs would rush over to a sit position next to me. Training dogs to that level took years when they were young, but it wasn’t actually that hard, just daily short work sessions. However, I don’t have a dog now in part because I don’t think I have time to properly train one.

Recently I was in a grocery (!!!) store and someone walked in with their clearly badly behaved dog. And that dog just walked up and lifted a leg and peed on the vegetable display. Just right in front of everyone. The person waited for the dog to finish his business then went on as if nothing had happened. Someone else said in horror “hey, your dog just peed on the display” and the guy shrugged and smiled and walked off. 🤢🤢🤢

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I completely agree with you. For context I don’t have a dog now but have had multiple over the years. Every single one was so well-trained I could control them with hand signals. In permitted off leash areas, if I whistled once, and gave the hand signal, my dogs would rush over to a sit position next to me. Training dogs to that level took years when they were young, but it wasn’t actually that hard, just daily short work sessions. However, I don’t have a dog now in part because I don’t think I have time to properly train one.

Recently I was in a grocery (!!!) store and someone walked in with their clearly badly behaved dog. And that dog just walked up and lifted a leg and peed on the vegetable display. Just right in front of everyone. The person waited for the dog to finish his business then went on as if nothing had happened. Someone else said in horror “hey, your dog just peed on the display” and the guy shrugged and smiled and walked off. 🤢🤢🤢

I so wish I could respond to this story with disbelief, but I have seen such aggressively horrible dog owner behavior in the last 3 years that I do believe this happened. Including the part with the guy smiling and walking away.

Just a few years ago, the idea of someone bringing even a small, well-behaved dog into a grocery store would have been considered really bad form. Now I regularly see people bring in huge dogs. I've seen people with unleashed dogs in the grocery store. I saw a woman who I think was a dog walker in the TJs near my house recently with FOUR dogs on leashes, wandering around the produce section at 11am. Like, what on earth. Why would you do that? I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that on the first page of the "Pets" forum right now, we have the following threads in addition to this one:

- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

Can you explain what there is to understand about jerky dog owners? Like what is it about not cleaning up your dog's poop or refusing to obey leash laws or letting your dog bark all day that requires explanation or understanding? It seems like self-evidently bad behavior that should be corrected.

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- A thread about a friend's dog who has nipped or bitten kids on three different occasion but the dog owner continues to bring the dog around children

- A thread about dog owners flouting clearly posted rules regarding dogs on athletic fields and school grounds

- Not one but two threads about dog owners who are overwhelmed by the work involved in training their dogs and would like to rehome them -- in one case the dog nips the OP's 4 year old son, in the other the the OP describes the dog as a "a terror" who is "very strong and muscular" and requires a ton of exercise, pulls at the leash constantly, and "ruins everything."

- A thread from a dog owner whose dog barks pretty much continuously while out in in their backyard, where the OP continues to put the dog despite the fact that he barks continuously when there.

- Two threads about dog attacks, one about attack statistics by breed and the other regarding a specific attack by a pit bull. Both threads involve a lot of bickering about whether or not it's fair to say that pits pose a greater danger for attack than other breeds.

- A thread from a dog owner who left their dog with the boarding facility for two weeks due to vacation and getting Covid and whose dog is now sad to be home instead of living at the boarding facility.

That's just page one. There are a LOT of dog owners who are overwhelmed by their dogs, struggle to offer them the exercise or stimulation they need, and unable to train them to behave in ways that would make them safe for other people, safe in their own homes, or less of a nuisance to neighbors. Or willing to break clear rules regarding dogs in the community.

Anyway... what IS the deal with entitled, jerky dog owners?

People obviously post when they’re having problems with their dog. What’s the point of posting “my Mopsy is the bestest girl, always so well-behaved and perfect?”

If you look at the other forums, you’ll see people posting about their kid problems on the child forums, and their spousal problems on the relationship board. What’s the deal with all the entitled, jerky kids and spouses? Maybe they should be rehomed.

Yes but it seems people have problems with their dog, or problems with other people's dogs, at a far higher frequency than other pets. There are far more threads started by people with dog issues than cat issues, for instance, even though cats come with their own set of challenges. And it's very rare to see someone post about someone else's cat.

But even beyond that, the nature of these problems is consistent. There are far more posts about dogs with negative behavioral issues like biting or barking than there are about dogs who dislike their food or try to hip on the furniture. There is this through line of "I can't control my dog."

Also, there is a consistency in the threads complaining about dog owners. Over and over, the issue is definitely owners either refusing to address negatively be behaviors despite repeat incidents, or insisting on taking their dogs places they are explicitly not allowed.

It just really paints a picture of dog owners being pretty entitled and inconsiderate. It rained see the question as to why this behavior from each g owners seems to be so prevalent.

I mean, duh. Cats and other pets barely leave the house--dogs are the pets that are most often out in the world, interacting with other people and dogs because they are social animals. You have written absolute reams about this; it clearly seriously troubles you. I'm afraid that you're going to have to deal with it. People and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, no one is getting rid of their dog because you don't think they're well enough behaved. Part of living in a city is dealing with aggressive drivers, careless cyclists, entitled parents with unrestrained children, crazy homeless people, weed smoke, litter, loud noise, crowded public transit, etc. If you want to live in some Pleasantville/Truman Show mashup, may I suggest moving to a small town?

Uh, what makes you think problems with dog owners are limited to cities, or that this even has anything to do with cities? There are crap dog owners everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

And guess what, no one has to put up with it. There are animal control laws that govern most of these behaviors. Report it. Complain. Document the dangerous, obnoxious behavior. People can and do have their dogs taken away when they consistently do things that endanger people or the dogs themselves.

Also, it's more than one person in this thread writing about awful dog owners. I'm the one who listed the many threads in this forum about irresponsible dog owners or dangerous dogs, and I didn't start any of those threads and haven't post in all but two of them. LOTS of us are fed up with your dangerous, untrained dogs and your entitled, anti-social behavior.

Go ahead and report them, then. But writing screeds on here does nothing but make you look like an old man shaking your fist at a cloud.

I'll write whatever I want whenever I want. I'd rather be the old man shaking his fist than the dog owner standing 4 feet away letting his unleashed dog poop in the old man's yard and then complaining "wow that old man sure is mad about stuff, what a jerk."

Stay mad

Say hey to animal control when you see them -- I'm sure you will be!

It's so dumb that you think anyone who disagrees with you has an unruly dog. I only let my dog off leash in designated off-leash areas at the designated times, but this moaning about how anyone whose dog ever barks needs to rehome their dog is just beyond. I think you just enjoy the kvetching. If it wasn't dogs, it would be something else. So yeah, stay mad.

(Also, I live next to a massive park and have NEVER seen Animal Control. Ever. It's not exactly a well-funded department in any city.)

If you are actually as responsible if a dog owner as you describe, you should agree with these criticisms of bad dog owners. Where I live, those of us who follow leash laws and always pick up our dogs poop and dispose of it are in the minority, and I hate the people who break these rules.

Also, no one has stated that a dog should be rehomed because it barked. But dogs left to bark for extended periods are a real problem. I love dogs and I hate when people do this -- it's cruel to people AND the dogs.

I don't get defending the crappy dog owners. They are terrible!

The people criticizing just want to criticize. They don't want to understand and they don't care about dogs.

It's true, I care about my children and am afraid when a dog we don't know is acting aggressively. Sorry for caring about my daughter more than I care about your dog.

Yep same. I don’t give a good gosh darn about your stupid dog, I care about people who are affected by your bad behavior.

dp we can say the same for your screaming children in restaurants. We don't care why but, we want them to shut up.

[Anonymous]

Lol entitled, anti social rude mutt owners proving all the OPs points, and why everyone else rightly hates you. And btw, children are human beings with human rights. No one is allowed to suggest they not use public spaces. Dogs however, have NO rights. They are animals, not people, not 'family'. They pose a danger to others via maulings, allergies, unsanitary everything. Pet dogs have been attacking real service dogs, and the real disabled person has their service dog taken off them, even though they didnt cause it. Too many problems to list here. All the result of nasty dog nutter culture that has taken over the west. Well too bad, cause the push back is coming, and lawsuits, and bans. Your anti social, child hating, mutt obsessed days are going to end. Society has had enough of dog owners.

[Anonymous]

We always pick up our dog’s poop even when we walk on trails and no one’s watching. It’s been many times that I stepped on or my dog touched other dogs poop when we walk. I just don’t understand why some people don’t clean up for their dogs.