Drug overdose @Justice HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for requiring schools to notify parents about overdoses, non-fatal and fatal, that occur at school. And not the the parents at the school, but the entire county.

But requiring schools to notify everyone even if the overdose happened off school grounds, and at the kids' home in this case it seems, really seems like overreach on parental rights.

Still the Title of this should be changed, as it DID NOT happen on school grounds. I’m great with all of the notifications but let’s not alter the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t need the County to tell me about things like drug overdoses and drunk driving accidents, I read the news. The deaths of kids due to drug overdoses and drunk driving and senseless violence makes the news. If you have to rely on the Superintendent sending out an email then you are not doing a very good job of staying informed.

In this case, a student of Justice HS died from an overdose after school and not on school property. I have no idea why I would expect to hear about this from the Superintendent of Schools. The only relation it has to school is that the kid was a student.

I would expect to hear from the Principal of the school if it happened at my kids school.

I don't know if you have noticed, but a TON of parents are completely checked out and not paying attention. So the message is for them. Maybe if we hit them over the head from several different angles, one of the whacks will wake them UP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read the letter as being a student who attended Justice HS. This post reads as though it occurred AT Justice HS. Very sad incident none the less but the Title of this post is incorrect.

What does the law require to be reported, I wonder. ANY overdose of a student or only if it occurs at school? I would think the latter only, but who knows.

Republican Governor Glen Youngkin passed a law requiring county school systems to notify parents of every drug overdose.

Prior administrations failed to notify, and just astro-turfed the issue so parents would not know.

THANK YOU, Governor Youngkin, for taking steps to help school children and parents in the Commonwealth.

That isn't what happened. Parents of the school the kids attended were notified. For some reason people think they have a right to know what goes on in every single school in the district they attend. So now we get this vague EO that does nothing. How did this EO improve your life? What are you doing differently due to this EO. Were you not planning to talk to your kids about drugs until this school told you they existed and were deadly? Can you only talk to your kids if the government lets you know something is going on?

Are you planning on helping the families who have lost kids or who have kids struggling with addiction. PLEASE tell me how this improved your parenting or helped the children struggling with addiction.

I cannot tell if you just enjoy being on a soap box or you are just ignorant. Of course notices like this prompt parents to have conversations with their kids. And it helps kids have conversations with their parents. No information was given out. And yes, it helps people be more proactive with talking to their kids. Maybe it does not impact you at all, but it helps others. It might even safe a life.

People know about these things. If they don't an email isn't going to be their saving grace and newsflash it doesn't really matter what you say to your kids they will do what they want.

My parents talked to me about drugs a million times and I went through DARE and saw all those "this is your brain on drugs" commercials. None of it worked. I still did drugs and still got addicted.

We could do things that really matter lile provide adequate mental health services and drug addiction programs. But we send emails.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read the letter as being a student who attended Justice HS. This post reads as though it occurred AT Justice HS. Very sad incident none the less but the Title of this post is incorrect.

What does the law require to be reported, I wonder. ANY overdose of a student or only if it occurs at school? I would think the latter only, but who knows.

Republican Governor Glen Youngkin passed a law requiring county school systems to notify parents of every drug overdose.

Prior administrations failed to notify, and just astro-turfed the issue so parents would not know.

THANK YOU, Governor Youngkin, for taking steps to help school children and parents in the Commonwealth.

That isn't what happened. Parents of the school the kids attended were notified. For some reason people think they have a right to know what goes on in every single school in the district they attend. So now we get this vague EO that does nothing. How did this EO improve your life? What are you doing differently due to this EO. Were you not planning to talk to your kids about drugs until this school told you they existed and were deadly? Can you only talk to your kids if the government lets you know something is going on?

Are you planning on helping the families who have lost kids or who have kids struggling with addiction. PLEASE tell me how this improved your parenting or helped the children struggling with addiction.

I cannot tell if you just enjoy being on a soap box or you are just ignorant. Of course notices like this prompt parents to have conversations with their kids. And it helps kids have conversations with their parents. No information was given out. And yes, it helps people be more proactive with talking to their kids. Maybe it does not impact you at all, but it helps others. It might even safe a life.

People know about these things. If they don't an email isn't going to be their saving grace and newsflash it doesn't really matter what you say to your kids they will do what they want.

My parents talked to me about drugs a million times and I went through DARE and saw all those "this is your brain on drugs" commercials. None of it worked. I still did drugs and still got addicted.

We could do things that really matter lile provide adequate mental health services and drug addiction programs. But we send emails.

DP. I'm sorry you fell through the cracks. What would have worked? Surely parents must first be aware of the problem? You say people know about these things, but I'm not sure all of them are. Some are totally socially unconnected and clueless. In order to get kids into drug addiction programs, don't their family need to be aware first in order to take them to one?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Justice parents were notified that a student had died, no mention of the cause until the general notification county wide.

The issue is county wide, there are kids OD'ing in Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun...

I'm sure the school admins know who the dealers are but they don't call the police to arrest the kids at the school. Time to lock them up.

But if the police/county did that, there could be a disparate impact on students of color, don’t you agree?

Yes, absolutely, fewer students of color would be dead if the cops were to lock up the dealers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t need the County to tell me about things like drug overdoses and drunk driving accidents, I read the news. The deaths of kids due to drug overdoses and drunk driving and senseless violence makes the news. If you have to rely on the Superintendent sending out an email then you are not doing a very good job of staying informed.

In this case, a student of Justice HS died from an overdose after school and not on school property. I have no idea why I would expect to hear about this from the Superintendent of Schools. The only relation it has to school is that the kid was a student.

I would expect to hear from the Principal of the school if it happened at my kids school.

I don't know if you have noticed, but a TON of parents are completely checked out and not paying attention. So the message is for them. Maybe if we hit them over the head from several different angles, one of the whacks will wake them UP!

There parents who are checked out aren’t paying attention to these emails

[Anonymous]

SHow you disapprove, yes. But way more importnat than that is to have Narcan around wherever the teens are and make sure they know how to use it and feel safe doing so.

[Anonymous]

What did the principal tweet that was so bad she deleted it?

[Anonymous]

There’s another thread on it - https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1172047.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for requiring schools to notify parents about overdoses, non-fatal and fatal, that occur at school. And not the the parents at the school, but the entire county.

But requiring schools to notify everyone even if the overdose happened off school grounds, and at the kids' home in this case it seems, really seems like overreach on parental rights.

Still the Title of this should be changed, as it DID NOT happen on school grounds. I’m great with all of the notifications but let’s not alter the story.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the letter as being a student who attended Justice HS. This post reads as though it occurred AT Justice HS. Very sad incident none the less but the Title of this post is incorrect.

What does the law require to be reported, I wonder. ANY overdose of a student or only if it occurs at school? I would think the latter only, but who knows.

The EO says that they are required to notify parents when there is a "school connected" overdose. It does not define that phrase. Nor does it indicate that it is only talking about unintentional OD or only ODs related to fentanyl. I only say this because it is unclear to me is a student intentionally ODs or ODs on something like tylenol or some OTC whether those are included in the EO. Opioids are not mentioned in the EO although it does talk about an anti fentanyl campaign. https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/eo/EO28---Parental-Notification-Law-and-Student-Education.pdf

Thank you for reading it and reporting back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice parents were notified that a student had died, no mention of the cause until the general notification county wide.

The issue is county wide, there are kids OD'ing in Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun...

I'm sure the school admins know who the dealers are but they don't call the police to arrest the kids at the school. Time to lock them up.

But if the police/county did that, there could be a disparate impact on students of color, don’t you agree?

I don't know that students of color are selling opiates and fentanyl... and definitely not in higher proportions than any other students.

They damn sure aren't manufacturing and distributing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the letter as being a student who attended Justice HS. This post reads as though it occurred AT Justice HS. Very sad incident none the less but the Title of this post is incorrect.

What does the law require to be reported, I wonder. ANY overdose of a student or only if it occurs at school? I would think the latter only, but who knows.

Republican Governor Glen Youngkin passed a law requiring county school systems to notify parents of every drug overdose.

Prior administrations failed to notify, and just astro-turfed the issue so parents would not know.

THANK YOU, Governor Youngkin, for taking steps to help school children and parents in the Commonwealth.

Your head is buried in the sand if you didn't think you need to talk to your kids about drugs and drinking until after the EO was passed. ODs, drunk driving, and teen pregnancies have been a thing for an awful long time. Drunk Driving was the big issue at my school in the 80's, 5 kids were killed in a month time span in the neighboring town. I had classmates who were suspended for being passed out drunk at high school dances. Drugs were present but it was more weed than anything.

The opioid crisis has been a known issue for at least the last 15 years. Fentanyl has made the opioid crisis even more severe. Now you have weed and counterfeit prescription drugs that are laced with fentanyl, which is why we are seeing the ODs. Enough people are ODing that you can buy Narcan at the grocery store and kids are allowed to carry it at school. They can't carry advil but they can carry narcan.

I don't need Youngkin's EO because I watch the news and understand that teens experiment. The difference is that experimenting today is far different then experimenting when I was in the 80's. The drugs are stronger and the lacing of drugs with deadly substances is far more prevalent.

It says more about you that you needed these emails then anything.

Good Lord. Where the f did you grow up?! I grew up in FCPS. My parents never spoke to me about drinking, drugs or sex but somehow I knew not to do any of it. I was kept on an academically focused path thank God. I didn’t have wild friends and didn’t go to parties.

[Anonymous]

OP's title is misleading. The OD did not occur AT the high school. It occurred to a student who attends the high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the letter as being a student who attended Justice HS. This post reads as though it occurred AT Justice HS. Very sad incident none the less but the Title of this post is incorrect.

What does the law require to be reported, I wonder. ANY overdose of a student or only if it occurs at school? I would think the latter only, but who knows.

Republican Governor Glen Youngkin passed a law requiring county school systems to notify parents of every drug overdose.

Prior administrations failed to notify, and just astro-turfed the issue so parents would not know.

THANK YOU, Governor Youngkin, for taking steps to help school children and parents in the Commonwealth.

Your head is buried in the sand if you didn't think you need to talk to your kids about drugs and drinking until after the EO was passed. ODs, drunk driving, and teen pregnancies have been a thing for an awful long time. Drunk Driving was the big issue at my school in the 80's, 5 kids were killed in a month time span in the neighboring town. I had classmates who were suspended for being passed out drunk at high school dances. Drugs were present but it was more weed than anything.

The opioid crisis has been a known issue for at least the last 15 years. Fentanyl has made the opioid crisis even more severe. Now you have weed and counterfeit prescription drugs that are laced with fentanyl, which is why we are seeing the ODs. Enough people are ODing that you can buy Narcan at the grocery store and kids are allowed to carry it at school. They can't carry advil but they can carry narcan.

I don't need Youngkin's EO because I watch the news and understand that teens experiment. The difference is that experimenting today is far different then experimenting when I was in the 80's. The drugs are stronger and the lacing of drugs with deadly substances is far more prevalent.

It says more about you that you needed these emails then anything.

Good Lord. Where the f did you grow up?! I grew up in FCPS. My parents never spoke to me about drinking, drugs or sex but somehow I knew not to do any of it. I was kept on an academically focused path thank God. I didn’t have wild friends and didn’t go to parties.

Congratulations, you were above average in your ability to make good decisions like the rest of us on here. Now remember half the population is below average and makes poor decisions for a plethora of reasons, including negligent home environments that they had no control over being born into.