Should I tell the bride she’s not married?

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless bride and groom are minors or clinically incompetent, they should be able to understand and handle basic legalities. This is none of your business, why are you even snooping around?

+1. It’s so weird. OP are you concerned that they don’t know they need to get a marriage license? I seriously doubt they are not aware of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

Wow, that's truly insensitive of you to attack someone who had to go through what PP went through. What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

If you know this because YOU (or someone you know) were supposed to file the paperwork and didn't, then yes, own up to it and tell it. If you know because you are nosy and was digging in public records, get a life.

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1 year ago we went to a wedding. Distant relatives technically but close.

They are not registered married. Yes I need to mind my business.
Religiously it counts cause it was in a church. And I know legally it counts if the wedded couple didn’t know.

But the bride is very traditional. Very very traditional. She has always wanted to be a wife etc. I just know something has had to have happened with the paperwork. Like they forget to send it in or I think the priest is supposed to do it?

If someone who knew that I wasn’t legally married knew and didn’t tell my I would be hurt. I know this isn’t a problem really but trust me this is a mistake.

I mean wouldn’t you want to know?

OMG you have too much time..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

I have practiced family law in three different states and I find your assertion absurd as well.

And if you’re holding yourself out as a legal expert based on your experience, you should know that in the world of the law the party making an assertion provides the evidence to support it.

YOU have asserted yourself as an authority and FYI’d the board that any couple who ‘marries’ in a ceremony with an officiant is legally married regardless of the existence of a marriage license registered with the relevant authorities in whichever jurisdiction.

Provide the legal citations please. Tell us which jurisdiction this happened to you in, at least. You must have access to the dissolution information and the relevant statutes which governed your unfortunate situation?

I suspect you’ll just come back with more barking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually saw a story the other day about couples who have weddings but don’t register marriage paperwork with legal authorities, intentionally.

There are certain legal advantages to remaining unmarried, but having the wedding ceremony feeds the familial and cultural expectations.

Unlikely in most jurisdictions. In the district of Columbia, our Episcopal priest needed to see the D.C. marriage license before he could marry us.

[Anonymous]

OP, in case you need to be reminded, Google is not a local government entity and does not register marriages. They pull from government data, which clearly can involve mistakes or delays. If you care this much, check with the local government.

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

I have practiced family law in three different states and I find your assertion absurd as well.

And if you’re holding yourself out as a legal expert based on your experience, you should know that in the world of the law the party making an assertion provides the evidence to support it.

YOU have asserted yourself as an authority and FYI’d the board that any couple who ‘marries’ in a ceremony with an officiant is legally married regardless of the existence of a marriage license registered with the relevant authorities in whichever jurisdiction.

Provide the legal citations please. Tell us which jurisdiction this happened to you in, at least. You must have access to the dissolution information and the relevant statutes which governed your unfortunate situation?

I suspect you’ll just come back with more barking.

You're hounding a victim on the internet. Wow.
Just go away and leave PP alone.
You may be a lawyer but you're a shitty human being.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

I have practiced family law in three different states and I find your assertion absurd as well.

And if you’re holding yourself out as a legal expert based on your experience, you should know that in the world of the law the party making an assertion provides the evidence to support it.

YOU have asserted yourself as an authority and FYI’d the board that any couple who ‘marries’ in a ceremony with an officiant is legally married regardless of the existence of a marriage license registered with the relevant authorities in whichever jurisdiction.

Provide the legal citations please. Tell us which jurisdiction this happened to you in, at least. You must have access to the dissolution information and the relevant statutes which governed your unfortunate situation?

I suspect you’ll just come back with more barking.

Wait ….wasn’t this an episode of Happy Days? Fonzie got pretend married on a boat and thought he actually was married.

[Anonymous]

First of all OP if they went and got a marriage license but didn’t turn it in then the license office might well be contacting them to tell them they won’t be officially married until the paperwork is in. Happened to someone I know who had just forgotten to send it in.

Second it’s very odd, this assertion about googling in Europe an address and discovering whether the people there are married. European countries have some of the strictest privacy laws around. I mean there’s this whole Right To Be Forgotten law that the EU enacted specifically with regard to Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten

Never mind that there’s plenty of outdated info on the internet.

But anyway if your relatives live together long enough they’ll be considered common-law spouses in the eyes of the courts so no need to worry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

I have practiced family law in three different states and I find your assertion absurd as well.

And if you’re holding yourself out as a legal expert based on your experience, you should know that in the world of the law the party making an assertion provides the evidence to support it.

YOU have asserted yourself as an authority and FYI’d the board that any couple who ‘marries’ in a ceremony with an officiant is legally married regardless of the existence of a marriage license registered with the relevant authorities in whichever jurisdiction.

Provide the legal citations please. Tell us which jurisdiction this happened to you in, at least. You must have access to the dissolution information and the relevant statutes which governed your unfortunate situation?

I suspect you’ll just come back with more barking.

Okay, hotshot. It was in Florida. We did have a license for the ceremony, but it was never filed. I called the county clerk first to check if it was filed and she said there was no record of a marriage. I said, “Phew, we’re not married.” And the simple county clerk, not a fancy family lawyer with a license in three states, said, “Sweetie, that doesn’t mean you’re not married. Dear, you need to call a lawyer.”

I did. I called three. They all said I was married. I didn’t ask them for freaking citations. I just wanted to get divorced ASAP and marry my fiancé. It took a year and $30,000.

Again, I say maybe you don’t know as much as you think you know. I suspect you’ll come back barking, too, because lawyers are such freaking know it alls and can never admit they are wrong about anything.

Why don’t you do some research befote you spout off nonsense.

[Anonymous]

OP I would tell the couple. They have a right to know. What if the groom is actually married to someone else and hasn’t told the bride and purposefully didn’t file the paperwork?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

I have practiced family law in three different states and I find your assertion absurd as well.

And if you’re holding yourself out as a legal expert based on your experience, you should know that in the world of the law the party making an assertion provides the evidence to support it.

YOU have asserted yourself as an authority and FYI’d the board that any couple who ‘marries’ in a ceremony with an officiant is legally married regardless of the existence of a marriage license registered with the relevant authorities in whichever jurisdiction.

Provide the legal citations please. Tell us which jurisdiction this happened to you in, at least. You must have access to the dissolution information and the relevant statutes which governed your unfortunate situation?

I suspect you’ll just come back with more barking.

You must not be a very good lawyer:

https://fldivorce.com/blog/if-i-never-turned-in-my-marriage-certificate-am-i-legally-married-or-not/#:~:text=A%20filed%20license%20is%20the,legal%20consequences%20to%20take%20effect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an fyi, in most US states, if you have a public ceremony and are married by an officiant, you’re considered legally married, even if a marriage license was never filed. I know this from personally experience (and have the divorce papers to prove it).

Would you please provide the legal citations to support this assertion? It sounds absurd to me.

In fact, in many US jurisdictions an officiant who performs a marriage ceremony without a marriage license present is committing a misdemeanor crime, so I think you are full of it.

But I’m willing to give you the opportunity to provide evidence to support your assertion that any couple who engages in a ceremony and has an officiant declare them married is in fact legally married.

Who are you to ask me to provide you with anything? I wish I were making this up. It’s a fact. It happened to me. I was dumb and obnoxious like you and didn’t believe it was possible for me to be married because no license was filed with the state. I’d even asked my bff who thinks she’s a hot shot lawyer because she went to Cornell and works in BigLaw. She assured me, very confidently, that I wasn’t married. But just after I got engaged again, I double checked with a real family lawyer in the state. And then got a second opinion. Thank god I did, because otherwise I would have been guilty of polygamy.

Maybe you don’t know everything?

Maybe you’re more than a little defensive and should calm down? NP.

You know what, I am defensive. I had to spend close to $30,000 and over a year to get divorced to someone I didn’t think I was married to because of idiots dispensing legal advice on topics they know nothing about. I’m lucky I didn’t commit polygamy. I was just trying to educate people on the reality and then some overconfident dumbass demands I provide citations, instead of maybe acknowledging he or she doesn’t know everything. How would you feel about it, if it were you? Yes, I’m still sore about it.

What state?