Everyone doesn’t get straight A’s in mcps

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I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

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I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

Not all levels do.

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No but it isn’t that difficult to get them judging from the median gpa in schools.

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My kid got a mix of As Bs Cs and one D.

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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.

Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.

OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?

I'm not so sure I mean both my kids have straight A's so I'm starting to think it's true that everyone does at least the kids who show up and try.

Well if both your kids have straight A’s then it must be true right? 🙄. MCPS has over 160,000 students. Why do you think they relaxed the grading so much in recent years? The state of Maryland was using graduation rates as a metric and seniors were not graduating. Guess what happened then!! 50% for everything to start off, lax deadlines, extra attempts. Some teachers are going back to more rigorous grading now because getting an A doesn’t actually mean you learned anything in MCPS.

Not everyone gets straight A’s. But grading standards have most definitely gotten a lot easier. When my first daughter went to high school in Montgomery County, if you got a B for the first quarter and then an A for the second quarter your semester grade would be an A. She also had to take a final exam in each class that affected her grade. If you got an A first quarter and a B second quarter, your semester grade would be a B. So my daughter ended up with lots of B’s because she received borderline B grades (89.8) for her second quarter grades along with A’s her first quarter. She worked her ass off for her grades. Those were well earned grades. She Graduated with a weighted 4.1 gpa. My last child who graduated from high school was able to get straight A’s even though her grades were probably no better than my older daughter’s, and she has never taken a final exam in her life. She also worked her ass off for her grades. She is in the Honors College at a state flagship and killing it so far. My first daughter ended up with a 3.98 college gpa at a small liberal arts school, and graduated at the top of her class.

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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.

Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.

OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?

I'm not so sure I mean both my kids have straight A's so I'm starting to think it's true that everyone does at least the kids who show up and try.

Well if both your kids have straight A’s then it must be true right? 🙄. MCPS has over 160,000 students. Why do you think they relaxed the grading so much in recent years? The state of Maryland was using graduation rates as a metric and seniors were not graduating. Guess what happened then!! 50% for everything to start off, lax deadlines, extra attempts. Some teachers are going back to more rigorous grading now because getting an A doesn’t actually mean you learned anything in MCPS.

Not everyone gets straight A’s. But grading standards have most definitely gotten a lot easier. When my first daughter went to high school in Montgomery County, if you got a B for the first quarter and then an A for the second quarter your semester grade would be an A. She also had to take a final exam in each class that affected her grade. If you got an A first quarter and a B second quarter, your semester grade would be a B. So my daughter ended up with lots of B’s because she received borderline B grades (89.8) for her second quarter grades along with A’s her first quarter. She worked her ass off for her grades. Those were well earned grades. She Graduated with a weighted 4.1 gpa. My last child who graduated from high school was able to get straight A’s even though her grades were probably no better than my older daughter’s, and she has never taken a final exam in her life. She also worked her ass off for her grades. She is in the Honors College at a state flagship and killing it so far. My first daughter ended up with a 3.98 college gpa at a small liberal arts school, and graduated at the top of her class.

What’s the point of your post?

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When my daughter was in 6th grade at Pyle she realized ALL her friends were getting straight A grades. She'd had a B here and there, in Math, etc. So she just turned it around and from the middle of 6th through to the end of 10th was just getting straight A grades. She's in 11th now and still gets them. She also calls herself "just the average student" because her perception is that everyone, except from one or two outliers, are getting the same.

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Anonymous wrote:As my Tiger mom said we are Asians not Bsians

This made me chuckle. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

Sure you can call it college if you want but they're just trades that could be learned any number of ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

Sure you can call it college if you want but they're just trades that could be learned any number of ways.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

Sure you can call it college if you want but they're just trades that could be learned any number of ways.

I’m a dentist and say this all the time about dentistry. Make it an apprenticeship right out of high school. Save a lot of time and money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.

Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.

Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.

Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.

These are occupations that all require college degrees. Your post makes no sense.

Sure you can call it college if you want but they're just trades that could be learned any number of ways.

I’m a dentist and say this all the time about dentistry. Make it an apprenticeship right out of high school. Save a lot of time and money.

🙄 Really? I think you know what is meant by that. Many occupations do not require a college degree. Some are in the health field. Please stop with ignorant and unhelpful responses. This DCUM is so ridiculous. I really hope you all don’t act like this in real life.

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My kid is at a W and has an IQ on the gifted range and is not getting all As. A lot of it depends on teachers and also how much the kid is willing to work the system. My other kid runs all the numbers and knows which assignments they can skate by on and skill keep the semester A. My lower GPA kid does not play any games, and if a teacher doesn’t give extra time when he’s been out with the flu, he won’t make a fuss and ask for the extra time.
I also find it depends a lot on the classes in middle school especially. The language classes and advanced math are much harder—many of the kids getting straight As are in the basic classes. When the list comes out every year, at least half of the straight A kids are not in any of the advanced classes.

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Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was in 6th grade at Pyle she realized ALL her friends were getting straight A grades. She'd had a B here and there, in Math, etc. So she just turned it around and from the middle of 6th through to the end of 10th was just getting straight A grades. She's in 11th now and still gets them. She also calls herself "just the average student" because her perception is that everyone, except from one or two outliers, are getting the same.

This doesn’t not sound healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was in 6th grade at Pyle she realized ALL her friends were getting straight A grades. She'd had a B here and there, in Math, etc. So she just turned it around and from the middle of 6th through to the end of 10th was just getting straight A grades. She's in 11th now and still gets them. She also calls herself "just the average student" because her perception is that everyone, except from one or two outliers, are getting the same.

This doesn’t not sound healthy.

That she gets straight A grades?