Bethesda Premier Cup Tournament 2023

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were there all weekend. Nice slope to field 3. Couldn't see the goals due to the glare of the sun. It looked like a slightly larger 9v9 field. Some good bumps and divots to twist ankles.
There was some amazing talent in the first bracket. Super fun games to watch. Felt bad teams came from Canada, IN, OH to play on a farm. My kid was lower bracket so it was fun to watch the ecnl teams.
I cannot believe Bethesda brings in out of state teams and then puts them at Muldoons. It's embarrassing for the DMV that this is the best we have to offer.

I agree. Bethesda used to be one of the very top tournaments in the country. Every year it loses more and more prestige due to bad fields (such as Muldoons), lack of referees (using two referees to manage a full a field with the referees having no experience doing this prior), field closures/cancelations due to using grass and not reimbursing teams, and other mismanagement. Soon it will be just another another local tournament.

[Anonymous]

Some of the worst refereeing I have ever seen at this tournament, and that is saying something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the worst refereeing I have ever seen at this tournament, and that is saying something.

Having to deal with entitled parents who have a false sense of privilege screaming and yelling at you isn't something most want to deal with to be a referee.
Especially these parents who don't understand the rules and there application.

So you get what you get.
The rest of individuals willing to put up with the abuse from ignorant sideline rabid parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

They are also playing for free, and for their lives in some siutations, so yes very broken soccer culture here in the US that has littel to do with cultivating talent no matter their zip code. What's your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

They are also playing for free, and for their lives in some siutations, so yes very broken soccer culture here in the US that has littel to do with cultivating talent no matter their zip code. What's your point?

Kids don't need Manchester United quality pitch to enjoy the beautiful game and have fun.
So stop whining because little Sarah isn't playing on FIFA World Cup quality approved hybrid pitch.

[Anonymous]

I heard there were some terribly behaved parents in the older brackets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard there were some terribly behaved parents in the older brackets.

Cleveland is clearly a shit town, with shitty people. Who crtitizes young teenagers for faking injuries? These kids can barely sell a skill move nevermind faking injuries, be better OHIO!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

They are also playing for free, and for their lives in some siutations, so yes very broken soccer culture here in the US that has littel to do with cultivating talent no matter their zip code. What's your point?

Kids don't need Manchester United quality pitch to enjoy the beautiful game and have fun.
So stop whining because little Sarah isn't playing on FIFA World Cup quality approved hybrid pitch.

+1 Also, do any of you complainers appreciate how beautiful it is out there? Regardless of which way you travel to Muldoon’s, you will be surrounded by lovely scenery. Muldoon’s was our home field for many years of our son’s childhood, and I always loved going there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard there were some terribly behaved parents in the older brackets.

Cleveland is clearly a shit town, with shitty people. Who crtitizes young teenagers for faking injuries? These kids can barely sell a skill move nevermind faking injuries, be better OHIO!

You can easily substitute "Cleveland" with every city/town where youth soccer has club teams.
Let's not let emotions drive the hypocrisy too far.

A little hypocrisy is fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were there all weekend. Nice slope to field 3. Couldn't see the goals due to the glare of the sun. It looked like a slightly larger 9v9 field. Some good bumps and divots to twist ankles.
There was some amazing talent in the first bracket. Super fun games to watch. Felt bad teams came from Canada, IN, OH to play on a farm. My kid was lower bracket so it was fun to watch the ecnl teams.
I cannot believe Bethesda brings in out of state teams and then puts them at Muldoons. It's embarrassing for the DMV that this is the best we have to offer.

I agree. Bethesda used to be one of the very top tournaments in the country. Every year it loses more and more prestige due to bad fields (such as Muldoons), lack of referees (using two referees to manage a full a field with the referees having no experience doing this prior), field closures/cancelations due to using grass and not reimbursing teams, and other mismanagement. Soon it will be just another another local tournament.

Using a two referee system isn't allowed under USSF rules. If they only have two refs, there should be one center, and they should add a club linesman.
If the tournament is allowing or encouraging refs to use the two man system, they could face serious sanctions, as could the assigner if she knows about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We were there all weekend. Nice slope to field 3. Couldn't see the goals due to the glare of the sun. It looked like a slightly larger 9v9 field. Some good bumps and divots to twist ankles.
There was some amazing talent in the first bracket. Super fun games to watch. Felt bad teams came from Canada, IN, OH to play on a farm. My kid was lower bracket so it was fun to watch the ecnl teams.
I cannot believe Bethesda brings in out of state teams and then puts them at Muldoons. It's embarrassing for the DMV that this is the best we have to offer.

I agree. Bethesda used to be one of the very top tournaments in the country. Every year it loses more and more prestige due to bad fields (such as Muldoons), lack of referees (using two referees to manage a full a field with the referees having no experience doing this prior), field closures/cancelations due to using grass and not reimbursing teams, and other mismanagement. Soon it will be just another another local tournament.

Using a two referee system isn't allowed under USSF rules. If they only have two refs, there should be one center, and they should add a club linesman.
If the tournament is allowing or encouraging refs to use the two man system, they could face serious sanctions, as could the assigner if she knows about it.

Shoulda coulda woulda vs reality. My son played in this tournament last year and they used two-man crews (when it was equally not allowed) and they F'd it up like crazy. I am also a referee who gets emails from the assignor for this tournament this year and the assignor described at least some of these games as "two whistles". However, I did not referee this tournament this weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

They are also playing for free, and for their lives in some siutations, so yes very broken soccer culture here in the US that has littel to do with cultivating talent no matter their zip code. What's your point?

Kids don't need Manchester United quality pitch to enjoy the beautiful game and have fun.
So stop whining because little Sarah isn't playing on FIFA World Cup quality approved hybrid pitch.

+1 Also, do any of you complainers appreciate how beautiful it is out there? Regardless of which way you travel to Muldoon’s, you will be surrounded by lovely scenery. Muldoon’s was our home field for many years of our son’s childhood, and I always loved going there.

The fields are horrendous but at least the drive is pretty. That's what you are going with to defend Bethesda charging $$$$ per team and using Muldoons.

[Anonymous]

PP. No problem with kids playing on crappy grass fields in regular season games. Problem is paying a lot of $$$ for a tournament. It seemed like a scam to me and I didn't spend a ton of $ on hotels, gas, food and time to come from hundreds of miles away.
I thought the reffing was OK. Some were good and some were not (let game get out of control). Definitely were 2 person groups reffing - not 3 for some games.

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Anonymous wrote:sad for some teams to travel from very far away and play on soggy grass, and sad for more locals to play each other there: GFR v. Alex and VYS v. PW can't be too excited to travel for to play other locals on soaked pastures

Kids in true soccer culture countries across Europe and South America would laugh at this whining about fields being soggy grass.

They are also playing for free, and for their lives in some siutations, so yes very broken soccer culture here in the US that has littel to do with cultivating talent no matter their zip code. What's your point?

Kids don't need Manchester United quality pitch to enjoy the beautiful game and have fun.
So stop whining because little Sarah isn't playing on FIFA World Cup quality approved hybrid pitch.

+1 Also, do any of you complainers appreciate how beautiful it is out there? Regardless of which way you travel to Muldoon’s, you will be surrounded by lovely scenery. Muldoon’s was our home field for many years of our son’s childhood, and I always loved going there.

The fields are horrendous but at least the drive is pretty. That's what you are going with to defend Bethesda charging $$$$ per team and using Muldoons.

the fields were fine. Do you want your kid playing on cancer ridden turf like virginia has?