Bethesda Premier Cup Tournament 2023

[Anonymous]

“Then ECNL is not all it's cracked up to be.
If two ECNL teams are in the 4th Bracket of a local tournament.”

Bad teams exist in every division. This is not new to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how this works?

Liverpool FC International is 'ranked' 9th in Maryland for U13's. They are in the 4th Bracket of the U13's for tournament.
Also in the 4th Bracket are the Baltimore Celtic ECNL and the Loudoun ECNL teams.

Based on Liverpool’s performance they were in the wrong bracket. Too high. Expensive Matching bags, warmups and kit don’t seem to translate to wins for Liverpool or The St James

Liverpool lost all games
Fairfax Brave ECNL made it to semi and lost
Loudoun ECNL made it to final and lost
$ can’t buy development or corazon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

Who is that? (Initials work)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

Who is that coach? As far as I know Simone is considered to be the best coach for young kids. But something does not work with U12

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

Are you saying that "the best" BSC coach is coaching the 2nd, 3rd, 4th teams at U12?

Or by "lower academy teams" do you mean he's coaching the U11, U10, U9, etc.?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the boys age groups that I was following u10-u14 or so it looked like SYC and Alexandria teams dominated. BSC not so much.

Bsc u10 and u11 made it to the finals. U13 and u14 did not have their top team in the tournament. Their 2nd team played in the top 1-2 brackets. (Not a bsc parent, just looking at the facts.)

Yes. BSC Boy's U9 top team made it to the finals as well, but lost to a very fast Coppermine team. Overall, the BSC boys and girls performed well (especially the girls' side).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

Lol what? What kind of BSCoolaid are you drinking?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like players/teams with technical skills have an advantage over the kick & runners

Wait, or is it the opposite? haha

Bad fields are the great equalizer. Hurts skilled teams ar more than lesser teams.
That's why lower league teams in the FA Cup tend to let their fields go to crap when playing top teams.

Yep. My prediction for the U14 boys age group this weekend is that Loudon and Laurel will do well, because of this (physical, running teams). Alexandria will be at a disadvantage (small, skilled team). This is based on seeing these teams over a couple years so this year's versions may be different.

This turned out to be pretty accurate. Loudon was top in their bracket and won the tournament. Laurel finished second in theirs. And Alexandria didn't get a win. I saw most of the teams in this bracket, at least for a little bit. The poster above didn't account for the size of Villareal, who looked to be the biggest and fastest of them all. And they were good. I'm not trying to denigrate the kids. They had a great tournament. The second place teams in each bracket, Coppermine and Laurel, had a dominant player up top and a game-plan to get them the ball. Nothing against those teams, either. They took advantage of their strength. It was especially effective on a short, bumpy, un-level field.

This was my first time at Muldoons and it was as embarrassing as advertised. And the goals. OMG, the goals. They were made up of three lengths of too-thin pipe, so that the crossbar sagged in the middle. Fields 1 and 3 literally backed to a horse farm so that skied balls ended up in a pasture. Watching kids scale the wood fence and go over the electrified wire at the top to retrieve balls was ridiculous. (I assume they disconnect the electrification for tournaments).

Considering the Laurel Lions 2010's are the current Maryland State Cup Champions and have consistently won EDP1 season after season with one of the best youth coaches in the country, picking them to finish well in any tournament is a safe bet.

kids scaling electric wires??????

What makes him "one of the best youth coaches in the country"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like players/teams with technical skills have an advantage over the kick & runners

Wait, or is it the opposite? haha

Bad fields are the great equalizer. Hurts skilled teams ar more than lesser teams.
That's why lower league teams in the FA Cup tend to let their fields go to crap when playing top teams.

Yep. My prediction for the U14 boys age group this weekend is that Loudon and Laurel will do well, because of this (physical, running teams). Alexandria will be at a disadvantage (small, skilled team). This is based on seeing these teams over a couple years so this year's versions may be different.

This turned out to be pretty accurate. Loudon was top in their bracket and won the tournament. Laurel finished second in theirs. And Alexandria didn't get a win. I saw most of the teams in this bracket, at least for a little bit. The poster above didn't account for the size of Villareal, who looked to be the biggest and fastest of them all. And they were good. I'm not trying to denigrate the kids. They had a great tournament. The second place teams in each bracket, Coppermine and Laurel, had a dominant player up top and a game-plan to get them the ball. Nothing against those teams, either. They took advantage of their strength. It was especially effective on a short, bumpy, un-level field.

This was my first time at Muldoons and it was as embarrassing as advertised. And the goals. OMG, the goals. They were made up of three lengths of too-thin pipe, so that the crossbar sagged in the middle. Fields 1 and 3 literally backed to a horse farm so that skied balls ended up in a pasture. Watching kids scale the wood fence and go over the electrified wire at the top to retrieve balls was ridiculous. (I assume they disconnect the electrification for tournaments).

Considering the Laurel Lions 2010's are the current Maryland State Cup Champions and have consistently won EDP1 season after season with one of the best youth coaches in the country, picking them to finish well in any tournament is a safe bet.

kids scaling electric wires??????

What makes him "one of the best youth coaches in the country"?

Decades of developing high quality players out of average and below average natural talent.
Decades of coaching teams without star players to outperform big teams with handpicked good players.
Respected by organizations at the highest levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like players/teams with technical skills have an advantage over the kick & runners

Wait, or is it the opposite? haha

Bad fields are the great equalizer. Hurts skilled teams ar more than lesser teams.
That's why lower league teams in the FA Cup tend to let their fields go to crap when playing top teams.

Yep. My prediction for the U14 boys age group this weekend is that Loudon and Laurel will do well, because of this (physical, running teams). Alexandria will be at a disadvantage (small, skilled team). This is based on seeing these teams over a couple years so this year's versions may be different.

This turned out to be pretty accurate. Loudon was top in their bracket and won the tournament. Laurel finished second in theirs. And Alexandria didn't get a win. I saw most of the teams in this bracket, at least for a little bit. The poster above didn't account for the size of Villareal, who looked to be the biggest and fastest of them all. And they were good. I'm not trying to denigrate the kids. They had a great tournament. The second place teams in each bracket, Coppermine and Laurel, had a dominant player up top and a game-plan to get them the ball. Nothing against those teams, either. They took advantage of their strength. It was especially effective on a short, bumpy, un-level field.

This was my first time at Muldoons and it was as embarrassing as advertised. And the goals. OMG, the goals. They were made up of three lengths of too-thin pipe, so that the crossbar sagged in the middle. Fields 1 and 3 literally backed to a horse farm so that skied balls ended up in a pasture. Watching kids scale the wood fence and go over the electrified wire at the top to retrieve balls was ridiculous. (I assume they disconnect the electrification for tournaments).

Considering the Laurel Lions 2010's are the current Maryland State Cup Champions and have consistently won EDP1 season after season with one of the best youth coaches in the country, picking them to finish well in any tournament is a safe bet.

kids scaling electric wires??????

What makes him "one of the best youth coaches in the country"?

Decades of developing high quality players out of average and below average natural talent.
Decades of coaching teams without star players to outperform big teams with handpicked good players.
Respected by organizations at the highest levels.

He’s definitely well regarded as an ex-player but your reasoning would imply that the club would have more than one good team. The 09 Lions lost all their games by wide margins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like players/teams with technical skills have an advantage over the kick & runners

Wait, or is it the opposite? haha

Bad fields are the great equalizer. Hurts skilled teams ar more than lesser teams.
That's why lower league teams in the FA Cup tend to let their fields go to crap when playing top teams.

Yep. My prediction for the U14 boys age group this weekend is that Loudon and Laurel will do well, because of this (physical, running teams). Alexandria will be at a disadvantage (small, skilled team). This is based on seeing these teams over a couple years so this year's versions may be different.

This turned out to be pretty accurate. Loudon was top in their bracket and won the tournament. Laurel finished second in theirs. And Alexandria didn't get a win. I saw most of the teams in this bracket, at least for a little bit. The poster above didn't account for the size of Villareal, who looked to be the biggest and fastest of them all. And they were good. I'm not trying to denigrate the kids. They had a great tournament. The second place teams in each bracket, Coppermine and Laurel, had a dominant player up top and a game-plan to get them the ball. Nothing against those teams, either. They took advantage of their strength. It was especially effective on a short, bumpy, un-level field.

This was my first time at Muldoons and it was as embarrassing as advertised. And the goals. OMG, the goals. They were made up of three lengths of too-thin pipe, so that the crossbar sagged in the middle. Fields 1 and 3 literally backed to a horse farm so that skied balls ended up in a pasture. Watching kids scale the wood fence and go over the electrified wire at the top to retrieve balls was ridiculous. (I assume they disconnect the electrification for tournaments).

Considering the Laurel Lions 2010's are the current Maryland State Cup Champions and have consistently won EDP1 season after season with one of the best youth coaches in the country, picking them to finish well in any tournament is a safe bet.

kids scaling electric wires??????

What makes him "one of the best youth coaches in the country"?

Decades of developing high quality players out of average and below average natural talent.
Decades of coaching teams without star players to outperform big teams with handpicked good players.
Respected by organizations at the highest levels.

He’s definitely well regarded as an ex-player but your reasoning would imply that the club would have more than one good team. The 09 Lions lost all their games by wide margins.

How does the performance of one team in a tournament paint a picture of a coaches resume who's been coaching for nearly 30 years?

You need to leave these conversations for people actually knowledgeable about soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like players/teams with technical skills have an advantage over the kick & runners

Wait, or is it the opposite? haha

Bad fields are the great equalizer. Hurts skilled teams ar more than lesser teams.
That's why lower league teams in the FA Cup tend to let their fields go to crap when playing top teams.

Yep. My prediction for the U14 boys age group this weekend is that Loudon and Laurel will do well, because of this (physical, running teams). Alexandria will be at a disadvantage (small, skilled team). This is based on seeing these teams over a couple years so this year's versions may be different.

This turned out to be pretty accurate. Loudon was top in their bracket and won the tournament. Laurel finished second in theirs. And Alexandria didn't get a win. I saw most of the teams in this bracket, at least for a little bit. The poster above didn't account for the size of Villareal, who looked to be the biggest and fastest of them all. And they were good. I'm not trying to denigrate the kids. They had a great tournament. The second place teams in each bracket, Coppermine and Laurel, had a dominant player up top and a game-plan to get them the ball. Nothing against those teams, either. They took advantage of their strength. It was especially effective on a short, bumpy, un-level field.

This was my first time at Muldoons and it was as embarrassing as advertised. And the goals. OMG, the goals. They were made up of three lengths of too-thin pipe, so that the crossbar sagged in the middle. Fields 1 and 3 literally backed to a horse farm so that skied balls ended up in a pasture. Watching kids scale the wood fence and go over the electrified wire at the top to retrieve balls was ridiculous. (I assume they disconnect the electrification for tournaments).

Considering the Laurel Lions 2010's are the current Maryland State Cup Champions and have consistently won EDP1 season after season with one of the best youth coaches in the country, picking them to finish well in any tournament is a safe bet.

kids scaling electric wires??????

What makes him "one of the best youth coaches in the country"?

Decades of developing high quality players out of average and below average natural talent.
Decades of coaching teams without star players to outperform big teams with handpicked good players.
Respected by organizations at the highest levels.

He’s definitely well regarded as an ex-player but your reasoning would imply that the club would have more than one good team. The 09 Lions lost all their games by wide margins.

In the intelligent knowledgeable soccer world, youth coaches aren't evaluated by team wins and losses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about BSC u12?

BSC's top U12 team finished second in their group; convincing wins over SAC and SYC's second U12 team, but a lost to PWSI.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/26308/results?group=224428

They would have better results if BSC had the best U12 coach there coaching them.
But I guess it makes sense to have him coach the lower academy teams so they have a better overall pool for U13 top team.

Lol yes all those in game tactics and formations changes…