Apple Air Tags being given away to track your stolen car

Anonymous
Under the Council’s reform legislation, these are the things grand juries and prosecutors consider when assessing a police officer’s pursuit:

(1) The reasonableness of the law enforcement officer's belief and actions from the perspective of a reasonable law enforcement officer; and

(2) The totality of the circumstances, which shall include:

(A) Whether the identity of the suspect was known;

(B) Whether the suspect could have been apprehended at a later time;

(C) The likelihood of a person, including the suspect motor vehicle's occupants, being endangered by the vehicular pursuit, including the type of area, the time of day, the amount of vehicular and pedestrian traffic, and the speed of the vehicular pursuit;

(D) The availability of other means to apprehend or track the fleeing suspect, such as helicopters;

(E) Whether circumstances arose during the vehicular pursuit that rendered the pursuit futile or would have required the vehicular pursuit to continue for an unreasonable time or distance, including:

(i) The distance between the pursuing law enforcement officers and the fleeing motor vehicle; and

(ii) Whether visual contact with the suspect motor vehicle was lost, or the suspect motor vehicle's location was no longer known;

(F) Whether the law enforcement officer's pursuit vehicle sustained damage or a mechanical failure that rendered it unsafe to operate;

(G) Whether the law enforcement officer was directed to terminate the pursuit by the pursuit supervisor or a higher-ranking supervisor;

(H) The law enforcement officer's training and experience;

(I) Whether anyone in the suspect motor vehicle:

(i) Appeared to possess, either on their person or in a location where it is readily available, a dangerous weapon; and

(ii) Was afforded an opportunity to comply with an order to surrender any suspected dangerous weapons;

(J) Whether the law enforcement officer, or another law enforcement officer in close proximity, engaged in reasonable de-escalation measures;

(K) Whether any conduct by the law enforcement officer prior to the vehicular pursuit unreasonably increased the risk of a confrontation resulting in a vehicular pursuit; and

(L) Whether the law enforcement officer made all reasonable efforts to prevent harm, including abandoning efforts to apprehend the suspect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not to fear! Equity is saved! None for Ward 3:

https://www.popville.com/2023/11/stolen-cars-pilot-program-tracking-tags-washington-dc/

Residents who live in Police Service Areas (PSAs) 106, 501, 502, 603, 605, and 606 can attend one of the following distribution events:

Tuesday, November 7 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
100 I (Eye) Street SE (PSA 106)

Wednesday, November 8 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
1309 5th Street NE (PSAs 501 & 502)

Thursday, November 9 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.

3200 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
Rear Parking Lot (PSAs 605 & 606)


I'm in PSA 106. I'll tell carjackers to go to Ward 3 because you all feel that you aren't getting carjacked enough.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Not sure yet where these will be handed out. Part of me thinks that these will be like COVID shots and they will initially all be scooped up by people living in Ward 3, but I can't say that I really blame them. Their vehicles are being stolen as well. But I can see a scenario where in the name of equity, DC says that you don't get an air tag unless you live elsewhere.

Also, the air tags will not prevent carjackings, just the recovery of your crashed up, rolling drug den of a vehicle.


There was an article in the Post about a Capitol Hill woman who was carjacked. When the police showed up at her home, they watched as she used her Airbag to track the moving vehicle across DC. MPD said that, even though the vehicle could be located in real time, the police were not allowed to pursue the vehicle with the carjackers inside.

So the DC government can engage in its latest performative gesture by giving away Airtags or the equivalent. But this will be ineffective while the woke left on the DC Council continues to prioritize the rights of criminals above those of crime victims and the general public. It's past time to empower the police.



What is the rationale for this? Insane!


Because there's a no-chase law in DC unless the suspect was part of a violent crime, like murder, or they are suspected of being on their way to commit a crime/harm the public.

Most large cities have this same law. The area is too densely populated to safely pursue a vehicle.
Anonymous
It really sounds like MPD doesn't want to lift a finger and do their jobs.

I think we might be getting at the root of the crime issue: criminals gonna crime if they know the cops won't do their job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Under the Council’s reform legislation, these are the things grand juries and prosecutors consider when assessing a police officer’s pursuit:

(1) The reasonableness of the law enforcement officer's belief and actions from the perspective of a reasonable law enforcement officer; and

(2) The totality of the circumstances, which shall include:

(A) Whether the identity of the suspect was known;

(B) Whether the suspect could have been apprehended at a later time;

(C) The likelihood of a person, including the suspect motor vehicle's occupants, being endangered by the vehicular pursuit, including the type of area, the time of day, the amount of vehicular and pedestrian traffic, and the speed of the vehicular pursuit;

(D) The availability of other means to apprehend or track the fleeing suspect, such as helicopters;

(E) Whether circumstances arose during the vehicular pursuit that rendered the pursuit futile or would have required the vehicular pursuit to continue for an unreasonable time or distance, including:

(i) The distance between the pursuing law enforcement officers and the fleeing motor vehicle; and

(ii) Whether visual contact with the suspect motor vehicle was lost, or the suspect motor vehicle's location was no longer known;

(F) Whether the law enforcement officer's pursuit vehicle sustained damage or a mechanical failure that rendered it unsafe to operate;

(G) Whether the law enforcement officer was directed to terminate the pursuit by the pursuit supervisor or a higher-ranking supervisor;

(H) The law enforcement officer's training and experience;

(I) Whether anyone in the suspect motor vehicle:

(i) Appeared to possess, either on their person or in a location where it is readily available, a dangerous weapon; and

(ii) Was afforded an opportunity to comply with an order to surrender any suspected dangerous weapons;

(J) Whether the law enforcement officer, or another law enforcement officer in close proximity, engaged in reasonable de-escalation measures;

(K) Whether any conduct by the law enforcement officer prior to the vehicular pursuit unreasonably increased the risk of a confrontation resulting in a vehicular pursuit; and

(L) Whether the law enforcement officer made all reasonable efforts to prevent harm, including abandoning efforts to apprehend the suspect.


It’s written perfectly for it to be legal or illegal in every case and you can work backwards to assign blame for pursuing or not pursuing based off the outcome.

For criminals, it’s a license to steal. Policy leads to the carjacking explosion we’ve seen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get a car with manual transmission.


This. 100% this. Absolutely fool proof. I guarantee no teenage carjacker in DC can drive a stick.


Be careful with this.

My friend was carjacked in Petworth for his stick-shift BMW. The thieves couldn't drive it, kept stalling out. They made it maybe 100 feet down the street. After abandoning the car, they returned to my friend and beat him into a coma with severe head injuries out of frustration.

If you are carjacked, get away ASAP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I recommend putting a Ring car camera in your vehicle. In case our judges ever decide to prosecute, you will have clear images of the carjacker(s). (And, yes, it is a dedicated Ring camera, which is powered by your car's battery.)


Good idea. They don't even finger-print when the car is recovered though, so there is ZERO indication of appetite to arrest/prosecute.

-- personal experience with this


That wasn't our experience when our car was stolen. It was left in the parking lot of a rec center in Mount Pleasant (undamaged, thank god). The police came and took prints from the steering wheel, console etc. We were about to locate the car through an app we signed up for when we bought the car.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I recommend putting a Ring car camera in your vehicle. In case our judges ever decide to prosecute, you will have clear images of the carjacker(s). (And, yes, it is a dedicated Ring camera, which is powered by your car's battery.)


Good idea. They don't even finger-print when the car is recovered though, so there is ZERO indication of appetite to arrest/prosecute.

-- personal experience with this


That wasn't our experience when our car was stolen. It was left in the parking lot of a rec center in Mount Pleasant (undamaged, thank god). The police came and took prints from the steering wheel, console etc. We were about to locate the car through an app we signed up for when we bought the car.


Wow, you're the unicorn. I'm happy for you. No-one else has a story like this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get a car with manual transmission.


This. 100% this. Absolutely fool proof. I guarantee no teenage carjacker in DC can drive a stick.


Be careful with this.

My friend was carjacked in Petworth for his stick-shift BMW. The thieves couldn't drive it, kept stalling out. They made it maybe 100 feet down the street. After abandoning the car, they returned to my friend and beat him into a coma with severe head injuries out of frustration.

If you are carjacked, get away ASAP.



Fine. Then I want a car with a self destruct switch. I push a hidden button as I’m getting out and the carjacker drives away and 30 seconds later a powerful bomb destroys the car and carjacker(s).

Happy now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I recommend putting a Ring car camera in your vehicle. In case our judges ever decide to prosecute, you will have clear images of the carjacker(s). (And, yes, it is a dedicated Ring camera, which is powered by your car's battery.)


Good idea. They don't even finger-print when the car is recovered though, so there is ZERO indication of appetite to arrest/prosecute.

-- personal experience with this


That wasn't our experience when our car was stolen. It was left in the parking lot of a rec center in Mount Pleasant (undamaged, thank god). The police came and took prints from the steering wheel, console etc. We were about to locate the car through an app we signed up for when we bought the car.


Wow, you're the unicorn. I'm happy for you. No-one else has a story like this.


Seriously.

Prints??? I don’t believe it. I think this is trolling or a lie. DC cops don’t even have a functioning crime lab right now, and haven’t for some time. Why would a CSU take prints? Plus, no one was injured - this is a property crime. They’re not going to do prints for that anyway. Not for just anyone’s car.

I call BS.
Anonymous
Sort of funny, but a friend did this. She tracked her car. Her husband and a guy friend went in the early hours of the morning and drove it home with her other set of keys. They knew cops weren't going to do anything about the stolen car, so they just got it back themselves. She had a new set of keys made.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It really sounds like MPD doesn't want to lift a finger and do their jobs.

I think we might be getting at the root of the crime issue: criminals gonna crime if they know the cops won't do their job.


Ding ding ding!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It really sounds like MPD doesn't want to lift a finger and do their jobs.

I think we might be getting at the root of the crime issue: criminals gonna crime if they know the cops won't do their job.


I don’t blame them. People like you have just spent the last three years protesting cops and yelling about defunding them. Now that criminals have realized the cops are no longer interested in policing (because of you, if that’s not already clear) and they’re running rampant, NOW suddenly you want cops to be cops again? Yeah, no. File an insurance claim. 90% of DC residents voted for the political infrastructure that created this mess. Now you can suffer. You made your beds. Now sleep in them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not to fear! Equity is saved! None for Ward 3:

https://www.popville.com/2023/11/stolen-cars-pilot-program-tracking-tags-washington-dc/

Residents who live in Police Service Areas (PSAs) 106, 501, 502, 603, 605, and 606 can attend one of the following distribution events:

Tuesday, November 7 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
100 I (Eye) Street SE (PSA 106)

Wednesday, November 8 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
1309 5th Street NE (PSAs 501 & 502)

Thursday, November 9 from 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.

3200 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
Rear Parking Lot (PSAs 605 & 606)


It's for the poorest parts of the city and where the most car jackings are occurring. Are you telling me that you can't afford an airtag? I've had one in my car for a year.


The poorest part of the city which apparently has more than enough iPhone users to make the trackers effective. That’s peak DC government for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sort of funny, but a friend did this. She tracked her car. Her husband and a guy friend went in the early hours of the morning and drove it home with her other set of keys. They knew cops weren't going to do anything about the stolen car, so they just got it back themselves. She had a new set of keys made.


I guess you could say, they are also car thieves!
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