S/o from another thread. What does POC mean to you?

[Anonymous]

POC is fake

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are Italians POC?

Or Japanese?

Not any more. Yes.

I’m older, and as an Italian-American, I remember being a kid and feeling othered, and I have even been known to comment on “white people food” . But that’s pretty much gone now. True WASP dominance is gone in terms of snobbery, and it’s evolved into lower-class white racial BS.

Woah, how old are you? My grandparents are dead, but would be in their late 90s if they were still alive, and I never heard them refer to Italian Americans as "othered"--and yeah, if they really felt that way I would have known. They grew up as Irish-Americans in Boston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who isn't white.

No. Anyone who doesn’t look white. That’s my definition

Exactly. So Italians are POC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's any person who is not considered white. Someone asked about Italians. I consider them white.

+1 Europeans are considered white. Some may have darker skin, but they are considered "white". Would you really consider someone like Giuliani a POC?

I'm not sure I agree with that.

Or, at the very least, my 102 year old grandfather who came from Ireland at the age of 14 would definitely NOT consider Southern Italians (or Spaniards) to be white

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's any person who is not considered white. Someone asked about Italians. I consider them white.

+1 Europeans are considered white. Some may have darker skin, but they are considered "white". Would you really consider someone like Giuliani a POC?

I'm not sure I agree with that.

Or, at the very least, my 102 year old grandfather who came from Ireland at the age of 14 would definitely NOT consider Southern Italians (or Spaniards) to be white

Irish in America were not considered white back in the day either by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are Italians POC?

Or Japanese?

Not any more. Yes.

I’m older, and as an Italian-American, I remember being a kid and feeling othered, and I have even been known to comment on “white people food” . But that’s pretty much gone now. True WASP dominance is gone in terms of snobbery, and it’s evolved into lower-class white racial BS.

Woah, how old are you? My grandparents are dead, but would be in their late 90s if they were still alive, and I never heard them refer to Italian Americans as "othered"--and yeah, if they really felt that way I would have known. They grew up as Irish-Americans in Boston.

My Irish-American grandparents did not go my aunt's wedding because she married an Italian-American.

Some of the other families did because "at least he was Catholic"

Italians aren't white

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's any person who is not considered white. Someone asked about Italians. I consider them white.

+1 Europeans are considered white. Some may have darker skin, but they are considered "white". Would you really consider someone like Giuliani a POC?

I'm not sure I agree with that.

Or, at the very least, my 102 year old grandfather who came from Ireland at the age of 14 would definitely NOT consider Southern Italians (or Spaniards) to be white

Irish in America were not considered white back in the day either by the way.

You're confusing class with race.

[Anonymous]

It's not really that useful. It's a way to "other" people of european descent. A way to say "not evil" or whatever. But white also describes middle easterners, south central asians, and other people you maybe don't think of as white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:POC is fake

Thank you SO much for sharing such an incisive, detailed analysis of this complex issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POC is fake

Thank you SO much for sharing such an incisive, detailed analysis of this complex issue.

It isn't a complex issue. It is a nothingness, the term "POC" has no meaning and the people who would be included in this group do not any sense of unity, at all, to be included in a group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's any person who is not considered white. Someone asked about Italians. I consider them white.

+1 Europeans are considered white. Some may have darker skin, but they are considered "white". Would you really consider someone like Giuliani a POC?

I'm not sure I agree with that.

Or, at the very least, my 102 year old grandfather who came from Ireland at the age of 14 would definitely NOT consider Southern Italians (or Spaniards) to be white

Irish in America were not considered white back in the day either by the way.

You're confusing class with race.

nope, they were not considered white. I can't believe you are not aware of this, if you are of Irish descent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most tried and true method is the pantone racial color card. Anything less than a 4 and you're white, above 4 is POC. I keep mine in my purse in case I'm confused; I just hold it up to someone discretely and then I know. Sometimes, in the summer, it can be misleading due to tans. This is why some white people become victims of oppression in the summer months.

Lmao

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POC is fake

Thank you SO much for sharing such an incisive, detailed analysis of this complex issue.

It isn't a complex issue. It is a nothingness, the term "POC" has no meaning and the people who would be included in this group do not any sense of unity, at all, to be included in a group.

Accurate. It's a fake, new term to pretend the world is divided by white and not white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POC is fake

Thank you SO much for sharing such an incisive, detailed analysis of this complex issue.

It isn't a complex issue. It is a nothingness, the term "POC" has no meaning and the people who would be included in this group do not any sense of unity, at all, to be included in a group.

Accurate. It's a fake, new term to pretend the world is divided by white and not white.

While I agree, it is still a term that is widely used which is what this thread is about. So to play along, to me POC is anyone non-European. I'm Southern Italian, in no way would I ever consider myself a POC. My parents were born and raised there, also do not consider themselves POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POC is fake

Thank you SO much for sharing such an incisive, detailed analysis of this complex issue.

It isn't a complex issue. It is a nothingness, the term "POC" has no meaning and the people who would be included in this group do not any sense of unity, at all, to be included in a group.

Accurate. It's a fake, new term to pretend the world is divided by white and not white.

While I agree, it is still a term that is widely used which is what this thread is about. So to play along, to me POC is anyone non-European. I'm Southern Italian, in no way would I ever consider myself a POC. My parents were born and raised there, also do not consider themselves POC.

But the larger point is that since we can debate things like "Is a southern italian a POC?" or "is a pale Middle Eastern not a POC?" means the term has no meaning