Protests in France following a police shooting of a teenager

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66079408

French protests are not a joke. BLM are pussies compared to these fighters.
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Parisian here.

I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.

In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.

I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.


The solution is to send back anyone involved in anything unlawful and not to bring more people from clashing cultures


Send back French citizens who were born in France? How is that gonna work?

Not all European countries have birthright citizenship. Maybe they aren’t citizens under French law.


Parisian here again. They are. Most of these youth rioting today are poor caucasians and third generation immigrants, whose parents are French, and whose grandparents are French. They've had a lot of years to get out of their poor suburbs and integrate into society, but with racism and/or generational poverty, it's hard for them to do so, despite our generous social safety net. No blame to them for peaceful protests, however, setting fire to an entire bus depot or multiple government buildings, shooting firework mortars at police, and looting shops and supermarkets, is beyond the pale. The organized bands of adult "casseurs" (breakers) like to go on destructive rampages on the margins of strikes and protests, and rope in minor kids to shoplift for them, knowing they'll get a lighter sentence, but that hopefully they will unload the majority of their items before getting caught.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Do you have immigrants from other cultures who don’t look European (eg Asians) who have successfully integrated? Just curious


Not pp but I have Asian family members in yvelines (suburb just outside Paris)

Their Kids are 2nd Gen. French and there are lots of Asians working and teaching at the local universities but the % is way smaller than in the anglosphere.

Asian people don’t really want to move to mainland Europe if they have other options in the anglosphere for similar roles/pay.

The language barrier, the taxation, the work/aspirational culture (American work culture is closer to Asian work culture than European work culture).





I was just wondering if it’s sort of inevitable that when someone who doesn’t look white moves to Europe they can’t integrate and therefore engage in all the looting and “protesting”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Parisian here.

I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.

In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.

I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.


The solution is to send back anyone involved in anything unlawful and not to bring more people from clashing cultures


This! Same is happening here but I don’t think most people realize it yet.


No they don’t. Most Americans are raised to be so tolerant that they can’t see the plain truth right in front of them. It’s not always as straightforward as the culture of burning and looting by North African communities in Paris. It can be the story of the majority certain religion US city council that bans pride flags. It can be the story of the Silicon Valley companies where you hire one person of a certain descent and then before you know it the whole company is comprised of their compatriots and everyone else is pushed out or tokenized. It’s a certain style of management brought on by representatives of a certain culture, etc etc
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Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?


We have enough of internal enemies, but they surely funded from overseas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?


DP. You can easily Google and see that the government knows that Russia was funding both BLM and white supremacists. Look into this. Yes, foreign governments try to influence us to hate each other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?


DP. You can easily Google and see that the government knows that Russia was funding both BLM and white supremacists. Look into this. Yes, foreign governments try to influence us to hate each other.


Yes Alexander II caused the civil war also

Is Russia was so powerful they wouldn’t be such a basket case

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?


DP. You can easily Google and see that the government knows that Russia was funding both BLM and white supremacists. Look into this. Yes, foreign governments try to influence us to hate each other.

This is from the Russian news:
You can put red ants into a jar and then add black ants into a jar, and they continue peacefully moving around, co-existing together. But try to shake the jar: black ants will try to attack red ants and red ants will attack black ants.
The question is: who is paying for shaking the jar in US and now in France and why are some people falls into this trap?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Parisian here.

I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.

In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.

I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.


The solution is to send back anyone involved in anything unlawful and not to bring more people from clashing cultures


Send back French citizens who were born in France? How is that gonna work?

Not all European countries have birthright citizenship. Maybe they aren’t citizens under French law.


Parisian here again. They are. Most of these youth rioting today are poor caucasians and third generation immigrants, whose parents are French, and whose grandparents are French. They've had a lot of years to get out of their poor suburbs and integrate into society, but with racism and/or generational poverty, it's hard for them to do so, despite our generous social safety net. No blame to them for peaceful protests, however, setting fire to an entire bus depot or multiple government buildings, shooting firework mortars at police, and looting shops and supermarkets, is beyond the pale. The organized bands of adult "casseurs" (breakers) like to go on destructive rampages on the margins of strikes and protests, and rope in minor kids to shoplift for them, knowing they'll get a lighter sentence, but that hopefully they will unload the majority of their items before getting caught.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Do you have immigrants from other cultures who don’t look European (eg Asians) who have successfully integrated? Just curious


Not pp but I have Asian family members in yvelines (suburb just outside Paris)

Their Kids are 2nd Gen. French and there are lots of Asians working and teaching at the local universities but the % is way smaller than in the anglosphere.

Asian people don’t really want to move to mainland Europe if they have other options in the anglosphere for similar roles/pay.

The language barrier, the taxation, the work/aspirational culture (American work culture is closer to Asian work culture than European work culture).





I was just wondering if it’s sort of inevitable that when someone who doesn’t look white moves to Europe they can’t integrate and therefore engage in all the looting and “protesting”


Amal Clooney integrated pretty well in Europe even though she is not exactly white. Have not seen her protesting much.
Anonymous
They rammed a car into a local mayor’s house and caused a fire that seriously injured his wife and she and her kids were escaping. Put these monsters in prison for the rest of their lives or kick them out.
Anonymous
Always thought BLM was a bona fide movement
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.

Excellent insight, but I’m giving it less than three years for one world order to prevail, unless something changes very soon. Governments could quell the violence today if they wanted to, but standing down is the plan. Does anyone doubt that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just a sequence to George Floyd, but French version. Same scenario. We will get the same outcome.


What is the outcome here? Fewer police officers with lower morale? More tolerance to petty and not so petty crime?


The final goal is to destabilize the most powerful players in the world. You cannot win the war against them, but you can destroy them from within. We can achieve it by knocking them down with crimes, riots, poverty, and internal conflicts. To create that, we need to pumper more information to create more polarize societies which destroy itself. Give it 10 more years, when kids who are in the elementary school now will grow up with these values, and we have a guarantees internal revolt in United States.


So you think it’s some external enemy that incites those riots? Like Soros or China or Russia?


DP. You can easily Google and see that the government knows that Russia was funding both BLM and white supremacists. Look into this. Yes, foreign governments try to influence us to hate each other.


Yes Alexander II caused the civil war also

Is Russia was so powerful they wouldn’t be such a basket case



That poster is not wrong: https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/30/blacktivist-facebook-account-russia-us-election

There was an attempt at sowing discord.

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