Will Woodward be on par with Whitman and Churchill?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be on par with Whitman and Churchill?

What was it like decades ago (the original), pre-closure?

Woodward had an outstanding reputation way back when. I am guessing it will be a great school when it opens. Not sure what you mean when you say “on par with” Whitman and Churchill.

Thanks for answering that. No-one seemed to know/answer that question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be on par with Whitman and Churchill?

What was it like decades ago (the original), pre-closure?

Woodward had an outstanding reputation way back when. I am guessing it will be a great school when it opens. Not sure what you mean when you say “on par with” Whitman and Churchill.

Woodward closed in 1987, coincidentally the same year the greatest injustice in the history of the world was committed by rezoning Horizon Hill to RM...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

Not really. Whitman has 59.3% of teachers with more than 15 years experience.

As compared to:
Sherwood 80.5%
Damascus 72.1%
Poolesville 68.1%
Clarksburg 64.6%
Wootton 64.6%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like it will be part of the DCC. There is a reason schools are put in the consortium. It is a mechanism to give middle class parents hope that even if they buy is a lesser zone that there is hope for a better school helping to prevent economic flight as suburban poverty has crept up as the cities have become vogue again. It also allows for load balancing as numbers swing wildly when you have lots of dense low income housing in a particular area.

If lots of DCC kids end up at Woodward and it is positioned as an overflow school it will simply not be well regarded and its metrics will reflect that.

The DCC has a lot of cleanup to do. Right now, everyone flocks to Blair, Einstein and Wheaton. Those schools are over capacity and hard to get into. Northwood and Kennedy are the laggard schools and they're under capacity.

If Woodward is going to be added to the DCC, then I imagine it will just keep Kennedy and Northwood at the bottom of the pile as the less desirable schools within the DCC. So for that reason, I hope it's not in the DCC.

FACT CHECK (2022-2023 data)
Northwood: enrollment 1,796; capacity 1,526
Kennedy: enrollment 1,827; capacity 2,159

But the PP's comment does indicate who they consider to be "everyone" (i.e., somebody) vs. who they consider to be not-everyone (i.e., nobody).

OP is speaking about how 8th graders rank their DCC high school choices. It’s Blair as the top choice, then Einstein, then Wheaton (more people have been interested in it the past few years because of the biomed program), then Northwood, and finally Kennedy. Tbh there’s a big gap between Blair and everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

They want to work at Whitman. They want to work with the brightest and most motivated. They want to be surrounded by the students (and families) of Whitman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

They want to work at Whitman. They want to work with the brightest and most motivated. They want to be surrounded by the students (and families) of Whitman.

Not according to the last teachers survey.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

They want to work at Whitman. They want to work with the brightest and most motivated. They want to be surrounded by the students (and families) of Whitman.

Not according to the last teachers survey.

And the brightest are definitely NOT at Whitman.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, Churchill is not all that. There are some teacher that are beyond terrible. One math teacher misses more classes than than a truant kid. Another teacher is always late because she is getting Chick-fil-A. One of the Chinese teachers is racist and doesn’t believe anyone can speak the language properly except native speakers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

So basically the power structure is on par with most other professions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid played on travel teams that drew players from W high schools as well as some of the ones being derided here. The kids and families from the W schools were by far the most obnoxious and annoying on the team. Their "values" were nothing to aspire to.

I am curious to know what their “values” were. Can you elaborate?

Well…self absorption, materialism, entitlement, bullying, humorless, superficial . They were basically as**les.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

fakenews

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

fakenews

They are the best -collectively- MCPS high school teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

fakenews

They are the best -collectively- MCPS high school teachers.

Because they have the most advantaged kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

Whitman teachers make more because they have more years in the system and more advanced degrees.

fakenews

They are the best -collectively- MCPS high school teachers.

Based on what metric? It's not percentage with advanced degrees. It's not staff satisfaction. So what metric are you using to state that they are the collective best high school teachers? Vibes?