Will Woodward be on par with Whitman and Churchill?

[Anonymous]

Woodward will be better than Einstein but not as good as Whitman, Churchill, BCC and Walter Johnson. It actually will be a good thing to have a school at that level, especially if it reduces overcrowding elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodward will be better than Einstein but not as good as Whitman, Churchill, BCC and Walter Johnson. It actually will be a good thing to have a school at that level, especially if it reduces overcrowding elsewhere.

Please define "better" and "good"? What aspects of Woodward will be "better" than Einstein but not as "good" as Whitman, Churchill, BCC, and WJ? The building? The teachers? The administration?

[Anonymous]

Woodward should be on-par with the current schools it draws it's students from.

Whether or not that's true when it opens will be whether or not the CO did a good job selecting Woodward teachers and staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodward should be on-par with the current schools it draws it's students from.

Whether or not that's true when it opens will be whether or not the CO did a good job selecting Woodward teachers and staff.

Woodward will likely have an excellent group of teachers and staff. Brand new schools attract the best candidates from all over the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like it will be part of the DCC. There is a reason schools are put in the consortium. It is a mechanism to give middle class parents hope that even if they buy is a lesser zone that there is hope for a better school helping to prevent economic flight as suburban poverty has crept up as the cities have become vogue again. It also allows for load balancing as numbers swing wildly when you have lots of dense low income housing in a particular area.

If lots of DCC kids end up at Woodward and it is positioned as an overflow school it will simply not be well regarded and its metrics will reflect that.

The DCC has a lot of cleanup to do. Right now, everyone flocks to Blair, Einstein and Wheaton. Those schools are over capacity and hard to get into. Northwood and Kennedy are the laggard schools and they're under capacity.

If Woodward is going to be added to the DCC, then I imagine it will just keep Kennedy and Northwood at the bottom of the pile as the less desirable schools within the DCC. So for that reason, I hope it's not in the DCC.

All the DCC are the laggard schools, a few are merely more desirable compared to the lesser options those parents are zoned to. Good schools are not part of a consortium. The county is structured this way for a reason.

Well, the best school in the county that produces the most scholars by far, the most NMSFs by far, the most winners by far, the most influential by far, the most ivies, the best college outcomes, the crown jewel of the county, is in the DCC.
The ones in the Ws (looking at you Churchill and Whitman) are the county's embarrassments.

The sad part is even you don’t believe that. But go ahead and take pride in the handful of west county kids they bus in for a magnet program designed to prop up an otherwise mediocre school. That is what the program was designed to do after all.

You know why they are no consortiums in nice areas? Because everybody already got into their first choice.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like it will be part of the DCC. There is a reason schools are put in the consortium. It is a mechanism to give middle class parents hope that even if they buy is a lesser zone that there is hope for a better school helping to prevent economic flight as suburban poverty has crept up as the cities have become vogue again. It also allows for load balancing as numbers swing wildly when you have lots of dense low income housing in a particular area.

If lots of DCC kids end up at Woodward and it is positioned as an overflow school it will simply not be well regarded and its metrics will reflect that.

The DCC has a lot of cleanup to do. Right now, everyone flocks to Blair, Einstein and Wheaton. Those schools are over capacity and hard to get into. Northwood and Kennedy are the laggard schools and they're under capacity.

If Woodward is going to be added to the DCC, then I imagine it will just keep Kennedy and Northwood at the bottom of the pile as the less desirable schools within the DCC. So for that reason, I hope it's not in the DCC.

All the DCC are the laggard schools, a few are merely more desirable compared to the lesser options those parents are zoned to. Good schools are not part of a consortium. The county is structured this way for a reason.

Well, the best school in the county that produces the most scholars by far, the most NMSFs by far, the most winners by far, the most influential by far, the most ivies, the best college outcomes, the crown jewel of the county, is in the DCC.
The ones in the Ws (looking at you Churchill and Whitman) are the county's embarrassments.

The sad part is even you don’t believe that. But go ahead and take pride in the handful of west county kids they bus in for a magnet program designed to prop up an otherwise mediocre school. That is what the program was designed to do after all.

You know why they are no consortiums in nice areas? Because everybody already got into their first choice.

What don't I believe? These are facts, why shouldn't I believe them? I believe in facts and reality unlike you who prefer fantasies and alternate facts.

[Anonymous]

My kid played on travel teams that drew players from W high schools as well as some of the ones being derided here. The kids and families from the W schools were by far the most obnoxious and annoying on the team. Their "values" were nothing to aspire to.

[Anonymous]

NO WAY. Not even a chance.

[Anonymous]

In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Woodward should be on-par with the current schools it draws it's students from.

Whether or not that's true when it opens will be whether or not the CO did a good job selecting Woodward teachers and staff.

Woodward will likely have an excellent group of teachers and staff. Brand new schools attract the best candidates from all over the county.

Most importantly it’s convenient to 270 and the Beltway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward should be on-par with the current schools it draws it's students from.

Whether or not that's true when it opens will be whether or not the CO did a good job selecting Woodward teachers and staff.

Woodward will likely have an excellent group of teachers and staff. Brand new schools attract the best candidates from all over the county.

Most importantly it’s convenient to 270 and the Beltway.

Just like WJ!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be on par with Whitman and Churchill?

What was it like decades ago (the original), pre-closure?

Woodward had an outstanding reputation way back when. I am guessing it will be a great school when it opens. Not sure what you mean when you say “on par with” Whitman and Churchill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In mcps par is an acronym for peer assisted review and is extra review process and paper work for new teachers. If new teachers are allowed to be taken advantage with extra work on top of their unpaid overtime then everyone should feel what it's like to be taken advantage of with unpaid overtime in the PAR process. It doesn't feel good or supported when you have no support and expect extra free work out of your employees and then automatically have them in a punitive system designed to move you closer to the exit door the day you start. The unbalanced power structure in mcps creates alot of problems including admin trying to leverage this dynamic to get teachers to falsley inflate the data or else mentality. Sure pure the bastards on PAR and let them know what it feels like to be powerless and helpless amongst oversized classes and poorly regulated behavior and no recourse options. It's very tough and the main cause of burnout.

Don't MCPS teachers make a lot of money compared to teachers in other counties? I think Whitman teachers are well into th 6 figures.

There is a uniform pay scale across the board. Whitman teachers don’t make more than other teachers in the county. You can look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid played on travel teams that drew players from W high schools as well as some of the ones being derided here. The kids and families from the W schools were by far the most obnoxious and annoying on the team. Their "values" were nothing to aspire to.

I am curious to know what their “values” were. Can you elaborate?