Hello from the Sunshine State!
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Anonymous
They moved from DC. They’re numb. |
Anonymous
You didn't understand the PP's point. |
Anonymous
How did you find DCUM, PP? |
Anonymous
Happy in a vacuous sort of way. |
Anonymous
Winter Park is great! Here is an election results map from 2020 election, it shows what's blue on a large scale plus many smaller urban areas are also blue. https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/florida |
Anonymous
according to whom? Where is your evidence for this? People always say this, but Florida has been moving rapidly to the right in recent years. DeSantis won by .4% in 2018. In 2022? 19 points. In 2016, Trump won the state by 1.3 points. In 2020, it was 3.3. I guess the Jacksonville mayor is one data point, but other than that...I'm not seeing it. We've been hearing about the "blueification" of FL (and TX!) for years- changing demographics, more transplants, etc. but it really hasn't panned out. Never understood why people automatically equate transplants with a state becoming more liberal. Just because someone is from "up north" doesn't mean they're liberal necessarily. Many transplants are older, and old people tend to be more conservative. And my anecdotal experience is that the families that are moving down there from the NE tend to be more conservative and are trying to leave their liberal home states--so if anything, I'd say the "great migration" from up north down to FL has been a key contributor to the state becoming more conservative. I believe it was in 2020 that there was a poll in TX that showed the voting patterns of transplants vs. native Texans. The transplants voted much more Republican. Which matches my own anecdotal experience, everyone I know who left CA for TX was doing so because they wanted to get away from the liberalism of CA and be among "like" people. |
Anonymous
You make some good points. Do you think Virginia is turning red? https://www.cnn.com/election/2021/results/virginia/governor |
Anonymous
I lived in what I think was a pretty moderate part of Florida. I think what people miss about Florida is that it’s been a place where messed up people go to escape from themselves. They often present themselves as staid conservative Bible thumpers but often have LGBTQ, alcoholic, schizotypal or bipolar skeletons in the closet, and they live in places where the ocean opens up and swallows everything every 50 years or so. So, it’s a place for people who either live for today, or don’t know that any other day exists, or who hide in their citrus groves with their Land Rovers. |
Anonymous
No, one election does not a trend make. |
Anonymous
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3998391-how-florida-became-a-conservative-bastion/ +1 Yep. Most of the people moving to Florida are Republicans. "Estimates released by the Census Bureau in December showed that, for the first time since 1957, Florida became the fastest-growing state in the country, netting more than 400,000 new residents in the year between July 2021 and July 2022. Those new arrivals, said Susan MacManus, a professional emeritus at the University of South Florida who specializes in Florida politics, have tilted heavily Republican. During the pandemic, nearly 394,000 new voters moved into Florida, and nearly half of them — 46 percent — registered with the GOP, according to voter data from L2, a data vendor. Only about 23 percent registered to vote as Democrats. Meanwhile, Florida’s electorate was shifting from within. Between January 2021 and September 2022, nearly 550,000 Florida voters changed their party affiliation, according to an analysis of state voter data by MacManus and her associates. Voters left the Democratic Party at nearly twice the rate as they left the GOP." |
Anonymous
She thinks she's very clever. let her have her moment. |
Anonymous
Stereotypes that I do not find to be true but perhaps we see what we want to see, meaning perhaps you or perhaps me. |
Anonymous
All these other posters make it seem like Florida is this great, sane place. If so, how in the world is it electing people and passing the public policies that it is, and banning books, etc.? |
Anonymous
| I live in Florida. When DeSantis was first elected governor - it was a REALLY close election over Andrew Gillum. Now, re election was different -Charlie Crist didn't even try IMO |
Anonymous
Yes, a lot has changed since 2018. I really thought (and hoped) Gillum would win that election. Events since then have shown he wasn't the greatest candidate despite appearing to be so then, but then same is true for DeSantis for many of us. Crist was a weak candidate, not too many strong Dems coming out of the woodwork in Florida unfortunately. I'm not sure what to be more afraid of, that DeSantis actually makes a successful run at the presidency or who would replace him if he does, or the third fear is of course that he continues to be governor. There is so much to like about living in Florida but current political trends are not one of them. |