Disclosing atheism

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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

DP. You’re demonstrating the very problem. Nobody said people dislike atheists because you “post what you think.” You’re simply lying here. The post you quote says people dislike atheists because they *trash* faith and certain types of faith, and you see it here on a daily basis.

Is saying belief in your god and belief Odin is a god is the same thing "trashing" your faith?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

People of faith don’t want to engage with atheists because they trash people of faith. Not because they personally lack faith.

I find it ironic that you are accusing a whole group of people of trashing people.

+1 I am an atheist who doesn't bash people of faith or say they are wrong. I state what I believe and at the same time respect someone's different beliefs. Just because some atheists on here seem to up for a fight doesn't mean they represent the average atheist...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

People of faith don’t want to engage with atheists because they trash people of faith. Not because they personally lack faith.

Somehow people have learned to respect people of other faiths. Perhaps someday soon people will learn to respect people who don't have a faith, i.e., people who do not believe in any supernatural beings - no fairies, no elves, no Gods, no sons of God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

DP. You’re demonstrating the very problem. Nobody said people dislike atheists because you “post what you think.” You’re simply lying here. The post you quote says people dislike atheists because they *trash* faith and certain types of faith, and you see it here on a daily basis.

Is saying belief in your god and belief Odin is a god is the same thing "trashing" your faith?

Nobody ever answers questions like this, they just throw out their accusations, when the truth is ANY reasonable discourse about evidence for the supernatural and comparisons to other supernatural beliefs is met with outrage. You can't bear to have your beliefs questioned, I guess, even in an open discussion forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

This is the first time she’s meeting these neighbors. She can save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws.

Highlighting the discriminatory posts. It's unbelievable there are still people in the world who think like this.

Do you have the courage to voice your opinions about Blacks, Hispanics, Asians? LGBTQ+?

Because I'm sure you have some choice words to say about them too!

I’m the PP you quoted and I’m atheist! And I drink White Claw!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

This is the first time she’s meeting these neighbors. She can save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws.

Highlighting the discriminatory posts. It's unbelievable there are still people in the world who think like this.

Do you have the courage to voice your opinions about Blacks, Hispanics, Asians? LGBTQ+?

Because I'm sure you have some choice words to say about them too!

I’m the PP you quoted and I’m atheist! And I drink White Claw!

I'm not the poster who quoted you. Personally, I thought the highlighted section save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws. was just a personal opinion that I disagreed with.

Good to know that you are an atheist -- to me, it indicates that we do not all think alike. Believers, take note. Not all atheists think alike! The one quoted above would recommend being a little drunk before mentioning their atheism.

Question: Does that go for the religious neighbor too -- should they have been a little drunk before mentioning their religion and asking OP about theirs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

This is the first time she’s meeting these neighbors. She can save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws.

Highlighting the discriminatory posts. It's unbelievable there are still people in the world who think like this.

Do you have the courage to voice your opinions about Blacks, Hispanics, Asians? LGBTQ+?

Because I'm sure you have some choice words to say about them too!

I’m the PP you quoted and I’m atheist! And I drink White Claw!

I'm not the poster who quoted you. Personally, I thought the highlighted section save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws. was just a personal opinion that I disagreed with.

Good to know that you are an atheist -- to me, it indicates that we do not all think alike. Believers, take note. Not all atheists think alike! The one quoted above would recommend being a little drunk before mentioning their atheism.

Question: Does that go for the religious neighbor too -- should they have been a little drunk before mentioning their religion and asking OP about theirs?

Q: Should Religious people be a little drunk before mentioning their religion?

A: In today's society, it is not needed. People generally assume others are religious. If you're not religious, however, getting drunk can bolster your courage to be honest and potentially provide an excuse for saying something perceived as antisocial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

People of faith don’t want to engage with atheists because they trash people of faith. Not because they personally lack faith.

I find it ironic that you are accusing a whole group of people of trashing people.

+1 I am an atheist who doesn't bash people of faith or say they are wrong. I state what I believe and at the same time respect someone's different beliefs. Just because some atheists on here seem to up for a fight doesn't mean they represent the average atheist...

And yet, many of you trash all Christians, Jews or Catholics based on the actions of sum. Yet none of you “I don’t bash” atheists ever steps up to correct your fellow atheists. It’s hard not to conclude that they’re doing work for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Such irony.

“We wouldn’t hate the atheists so much if they would just keep it to themselves and not state their beliefs “

This kind of bad faith comment is exactly why I cringe at people who announce themselves to be atheists. I assume it’s about to be contentious. And I’m usually right.

In contrast, DH comes from a Muslim family and I never have any sort of unpleasantness with them, even though I’m not Muslim.

You just keep proving the point, post after post.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

PP says we hate atheists because they post what they think. End period. Nothing in bad faith about it. That's what it is.

People of faith don’t want to engage with atheists because they trash people of faith. Not because they personally lack faith.

I find it ironic that you are accusing a whole group of people of trashing people.

+1 I am an atheist who doesn't bash people of faith or say they are wrong. I state what I believe and at the same time respect someone's different beliefs. Just because some atheists on here seem to up for a fight doesn't mean they represent the average atheist...

And yet, many of you trash all Christians, Jews or Catholics based on the actions of sum. Yet none of you “I don’t bash” atheists ever steps up to correct your fellow atheists. It’s hard not to conclude that they’re doing work for you.

Hard for you to conclude, maybe, but when you falsely say that "many of you trash all Christians, Jews or Catholics based on the actions of sum" it's hard to conclude that you're not just taking the opportunity to anonymously bash atheists.

Perhaps by trashing, you mean not believing that Jesus is Lord and Savior of all who lives with God, a supernatural being, in heaven. That's what an atheist believes -- also Jews and other non-christians, although they usually believe in a supernatural God - just not that he had a son that he sent to earth to be crucified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Omg just stop

No one is bigoted you need a dictionary

Atheists aren’t on this forum bashing religion they are bashing you freaks shoving your religion down our throats like in schools. Or what clothes women wear like in Missouri.

Or your judgementmental crap about premarital sex when your pastors or ministers or priests or rabbis are molesting kids.

Or how women are second class citizens in most religions

Religion is a joke period

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why the new neighbors felt the need to ask about OPs faith and where they go to church. OP was showing proper social grace in empathizing with the new neighbors. They took it to another level by asking about faith and where OP attended church. That's very uncouth. OP-you answered honestly and tried to move the conversation along. That is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Omg just stop

No one is bigoted you need a dictionary

Atheists aren’t on this forum bashing religion they are bashing you freaks shoving your religion down our throats like in schools. Or what clothes women wear like in Missouri.

Or your judgementmental crap about premarital sex when your pastors or ministers or priests or rabbis are molesting kids.

Or how women are second class citizens in most religions

Religion is a joke period

Ah, it’s all clear now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

You know what would help with that? If hundreds of DCUM readers didn't click into the Religion forum every day to see atheists trashing faith and showing bigotry towards certain faiths. I mean, if you want to change the perception of atheists.

Omg just stop

No one is bigoted you need a dictionary

Atheists aren’t on this forum bashing religion they are bashing you freaks shoving your religion down our throats like in schools. Or what clothes women wear like in Missouri.

Or your judgementmental crap about premarital sex when your pastors or ministers or priests or rabbis are molesting kids.

Or how women are second class citizens in most religions

Religion is a joke period

Religion can be a joke. It can also be very comforting and offer community and (false) hope that your life will continue forever in heaven after you die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the new neighbors felt the need to ask about OPs faith and where they go to church. OP was showing proper social grace in empathizing with the new neighbors. They took it to another level by asking about faith and where OP attended church. That's very uncouth. OP-you answered honestly and tried to move the conversation along. That is fine.

OP was fine, I agree. As for the new neighbor, I don't think they were uncouth. They were simply acting within the current social standard which assumes that most people - and especially nice people, like OP - must also be religious and go to church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

True, but it's the easy way out -- sort of like a gay guy saying he's not the marrying kind (in the old days -- now people bring up their same sex spouse like it's no big deal.)

And it does nothing to help change the perception of atheists as nasty, bad people.

This is the first time she’s meeting these neighbors. She can save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws.

Highlighting the discriminatory posts. It's unbelievable there are still people in the world who think like this.

Do you have the courage to voice your opinions about Blacks, Hispanics, Asians? LGBTQ+?

Because I'm sure you have some choice words to say about them too!

I’m the PP you quoted and I’m atheist! And I drink White Claw!

I'm not the poster who quoted you. Personally, I thought the highlighted section save the atheism chat for the block party after a few White Claws. was just a personal opinion that I disagreed with.

Good to know that you are an atheist -- to me, it indicates that we do not all think alike. Believers, take note. Not all atheists think alike! The one quoted above would recommend being a little drunk before mentioning their atheism.

Question: Does that go for the religious neighbor too -- should they have been a little drunk before mentioning their religion and asking OP about theirs?

None of us, other than the OP, know exactly the tone of the conversation nor exactly what was said. Based on what the OP wrote, it sounds like the neighbors were looking for a new church and maybe wondering if OP had any recommendations. It doesn’t sound like they were engaging OP in a theological debate. One of the nice things about atheism is that you don’t have to proselytize so I’m not sure why you are so worried about the response OP or any other atheist gives to this question.