Arguments in favor of giving kids passing grades even when they don't know the material?
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Anonymous
| You can’t make an 18 year old go to school. You’d have difficulty getting a judge to chase down 17 year olds to attend, too. |
Anonymous
You seem to think you’re an expert on urban education. Baltimore City Public Schools desperately needs certified teachers. Interested? |
Anonymous
Where do they teach actual "reading", "writing" and math. https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/edison/programs This is a vocational school, basically. They have to read and do simple math in the vocational school, but to OP's post, if they get a 50% even if they cannot read the material or do basic calculation or get a 50% on the vocation assignments even as they are actually failing it, how is this helping them in the long run? It's keeping them dumb, and then releasing them to the public like that. Let's say they get that certification at Edison, but they can't actually read or do math beyond an ES level. How employable do you think these kids are? |
Anonymous
? gee, why don't you tell the parents of those failing Baltimore city kids that they should become teachers instead. Do you think they'd be interested? After all, it is their kids who are reading at a basic ES level. |
Anonymous
According to some Baltimore city education advocates, BCPS CEO isn't interested in help and think they have the situation under control. https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/community-responds-after-baltimore-schools-ignores-harvard-mathematicians-offer-to-help
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Anonymous
Not pp, but you clearly don’t understand the issues at play here. For one, I bet if you took a survey of the ages of parents of BCPS students, I am certain that you’d find the vast majority of them to be only 15-20 years older than their children. In other words, teen parents (mothers, since the dads are who knows where). The rest had their kids when they were 22-25 years old, is my guess. The parents have a high school diploma at most, FROM BCPS. That is all they know. They don’t know what they don’t know. Their kids are attending the same schools they did, and the attitude is, if it was good enough for my parents and I, it’s good enough for my kids. And the cycle continues. |
Anonymous
| You also have to understand that most kids attending Baltimore City schools don’t know what’s possible in terms of careers. The only college-educated individuals they encounter growing up are their teachers, and the doctors & dentists they visit a few times. They aren’t meeting engineers, programmers etc. They don’t see on a regular basis what an education could get for them. |
Anonymous
| I would probably have my kids be truant too if I lived in Baltimore & couldn’t afford to move. Safer & probably not much learning going on in the schools anyway. I’m surprised there’s nothing like Boston’s METCO there. |
Anonymous
+1,000 |
Anonymous
Holding them back, just so they can drop out the day they turn 18, isn’t going to keep them from being “uneducated,” but please, do tell us more about just how little you know. |
Anonymous
I mean, you can “feel” that way, but without a high school diploma, no one will hire them, so enjoy your cripplingly massive tax hikes to pay for them. |
Anonymous
I get the issue. But, to get out of poverty, you need an education, at least read and do math at an 8th grade level. Most of these kids are graduating with an ES level of math and reading. And the school district leaders are just sweeping it under the rug and don't want to hear outsider ideas. Clearly, what they are doing isn't working, but they think they know best, and their "best" is a huge number of students graduating without being able to read or do math at an 8th grade level. That is shameful. Why can't they take outside help? IMO, there's a lot of denialism and corruption there. |
Anonymous
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It’s so precious how you think that holding failing kids back repeatedly (because yes, it would be repeatedly) is going to make them think “golly gee whillikers, jeepers, this is serious! I’d better buckle down, start coming to class and extra tutoring hours and doing my homework.”
Step out of your privileged bubble every once in a while. |
Anonymous
It's stupid to think these kids who can't do math/read at grade level will be fine and not be a burden on society once they leave school. Some will turn to crime, and who knows.. you could be a victim of one of them. How's that for precious? |
Anonymous
So that’s a no on joining up and showing them how it’s done then? Thought so. |