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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a worry that having kids repeat a grade increases the chance they will drop out before they graduate [/quote]
why not just have the HS kid go to continuing education at community college? I think that's what they did back in my day, in the 80s.

A kid who graduates only reading at an ES level and can barely do math serves no one, least of all the kid.[/quote]

Kids do take part in that. You’re just not aware of it. See Edison HS in MCPS.[/quote]
I'm well aware of Edison HS as we get emails about it from our HS, but that's not the same.  Those are vocational schools, and they don't teach reading and math.

Here's a story of what happens when schools just pass a student along:

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/baltimore-city-student-graduates-without-learning-read-patterson-high-school-project-baltimore-debora-prestileo

https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/77-tested-at-baltimore-high-school-read-at-elementary-level-71-at-kindergarten

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/about-3-test-at-grade-level-in-math-and-reading-at-one-baltimore-high-school

Baltimore city is a high poverty area. Passing these kids is not helping them get out of poverty.[/quote]

You seem to think you’re an expert on urban education. Baltimore City Public Schools desperately needs certified teachers. Interested?[/quote]
? gee, why don't you tell the parents of those failing Baltimore city kids that they should become teachers instead.  Do you think they'd be interested? After all, it is their kids who are reading at a basic ES level.[/quote]

Not pp, but you clearly don’t understand the issues at play here.

For one, I bet if you took a survey of the ages of parents of BCPS students, I am certain that you’d find the vast majority of them to be only 15-20 years older than their children. In other words, teen parents (mothers, since the dads are who knows where). The rest had their kids when they were 22-25 years old, is my guess. The parents have a high school diploma at most, FROM BCPS. That is all they know. They don’t know what they don’t know. Their kids are attending the same schools they did, and the attitude is, if it was good enough for my parents and I, it’s good enough for my kids. And the cycle continues. [/quote]
I get the issue. But, to get out of poverty, you need an education, at least read and do math at an 8th grade level. Most of these kids are graduating with an ES level of math and reading.

And the school district leaders are just sweeping it under the rug and don't want to hear outsider ideas.  Clearly, what they are doing isn't working, but they think they know best, and their "best" is a huge number of students graduating without being able to read or do math at an 8th grade level.

That is shameful. Why can't they take outside help? IMO, there's a lot of denialism and corruption there.[/quote]

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