DC delays Conn Ave bike lanes bcuz of opposition

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.


DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.


DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?



Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.


DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?



Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.

Are you aware that less than 4% of the city population bike commutes? You exist in a very narrow minority.

I am aware that both myself and my children would all commute by bike if there were a safe way to do so. And I live right off Conn Ave.


If you live right off Conn Ave you probably live close to the metro. Or could take the bus.


If you live in Van Ness or south. You realize 1) there are a few of us that live north of there and 2, we want to be able to ride a bike safely to support the businesses in YOUR neighborhood. I support more bus service, but right now, the 20-30 minute headways for the L2 make it undependable for what you are suggesting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why not make the bike lanes on parallel roads rather than major arteries full of cars? Oh, that would make too much sense.


Which parallel roads? PLease do tell. Also, you put the bike lanes ON the commercial corridor so people can ride to patronize businesses ON that corridor. That is how all the other cities around the world have done it.
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Anonymous wrote:There's literally like 8 bikers in DC and they are loud and obnoxious as hell and also don't even understand basic traffic laws. They're a pedestrian when it's a convenient for them and they're a car when it's convenient for them. All bow down to the superior bikers!


Bikers on a nutshell. So entitled.


Most bikers are also pedestrians and drivers. Can say the same for drivers or pedestrians.
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Anonymous wrote:I know people barely use all our bike lanes but if they build these, you will see upwards of 30 people using them every week


Impressive numbers. 30/week


FWIW, I drove on CT Ave yesterday from 7:30 to 7:45 AM to get from the circle to south of Woodley Park. In that little stretch of time, I saw easily more than 30 cyclists. So anecdotally, no your numbers are way off.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.


Perhaps, you are aware that many DC businesses (and the DC tax base) depend on those suburbanites.



And those suburbanites are decreasingly coning into the District - commuting patterns post COVID paint a grim picture for the built environment from 1955 in the region.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.

Are you aware that less than 4% of the city population bike commutes? You exist in a very narrow minority.

I am aware that both myself and my children would all commute by bike if there were a safe way to do so. And I live right off Conn Ave.


If you live right off Conn Ave you probably live close to the metro. Or could take the bus.


Or bike on the parallel side streets


But the businesses we want to support aren't on those paralel streets, they are on Conn Ave. Same with the libraries, etc. Why not use the public space to make it safe for all comers? Or should people only have to have a car to use the Avenue?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.

Are you aware that less than 4% of the city population bike commutes? You exist in a very narrow minority.

I am aware that both myself and my children would all commute by bike if there were a safe way to do so. And I live right off Conn Ave.

Also, isn't 4% like 28,000 people? Do you want 30,000 more cars on the street for your commute?

1. It is 4% of COMMUTERS. So more like less than 10,000 people and likely substantially lower.

2. Your math indicates that you believe DC has 700,000 residents which is disqualifying.

3. There is a thing called public transit, which a lot of people use.


There are a lot of people who wouldn't be considered "commuters" who would use the bike lanes to bike from one neighborhood to another to shop, eat, etc. Those are not factored into the 4% commuter figure the anti's keep falsely citing.

1. I stand corrected it is only 2% of commuters (thanks PPP)

2. Define “a lot”

3. Why not just use other options available to you? Take transit like the rest of us or bike on side streets?

4. At a time when the city is cutting support to people to prevent eviction and displacement, do you realize how tone deaf you sound? You claim to be a cyclist but I do wonder when the actual last time you touched grass because you are living in a real small bubble.


It is always the trope - take the bus that I won't support more money for so the headways are more frequent. Ride your bike miles out f the way to go to the shops you want to support so I can drive MY car in a straight line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just returned from Europe, and in most cities, bike lanes are one way or the other on streets. One bike lane, not two. That allows for bikes and for the flow of traffic. Maybe worth considering on Connecticut.


That is what is proposed here, one way lane going south and one way one going north, each on the respective curbs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.


It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know people barely use all our bike lanes but if they build these, you will see upwards of 30 people using them every week


Impressive numbers. 30/week


FWIW, I drove on CT Ave yesterday from 7:30 to 7:45 AM to get from the circle to south of Woodley Park. In that little stretch of time, I saw easily more than 30 cyclists. So anecdotally, no your numbers are way off.



Stop making things up. I was on that same stretch yesterday and there weren’t 30 cyclists on the road.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know people barely use all our bike lanes but if they build these, you will see upwards of 30 people using them every week


Impressive numbers. 30/week


FWIW, I drove on CT Ave yesterday from 7:30 to 7:45 AM to get from the circle to south of Woodley Park. In that little stretch of time, I saw easily more than 30 cyclists. So anecdotally, no your numbers are way off.


Total fabrication. I commute from Nebraska to Woodley Park every morning and have never seen more than a handful of cyclists per week. Never mind each day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.

Are you aware that less than 4% of the city population bike commutes? You exist in a very narrow minority.

I am aware that both myself and my children would all commute by bike if there were a safe way to do so. And I live right off Conn Ave.


If you live right off Conn Ave you probably live close to the metro. Or could take the bus.


If you live in Van Ness or south. You realize 1) there are a few of us that live north of there and 2, we want to be able to ride a bike safely to support the businesses in YOUR neighborhood. I support more bus service, but right now, the 20-30 minute headways for the L2 make it undependable for what you are suggesting.


That's cool, but many more people drive than ride cars, so losing the majority of customers for the three of you who bike doesn't make sense.
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