DC delays Conn Ave bike lanes bcuz of opposition

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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.

If they're coming in mid day and leaving at night, when the roads are dead, they don't need bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally. Having bike lanes on a major artery is insanity.

So the rest of the major cities around the world are insane. mmmmokay.

You’re claiming all other major cities around the world have bike lanes on major roads? Interesting.

Paris is building a lot of bike infrastructure. Many less car-centric cities are already more bike and ped friendly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.

If they're coming in mid day and leaving at night, when the roads are dead, they don't need bike lanes.

Ha right, because when the roads are empty is the safest time to bike on them. Cars don't take advantage of the empty roads to speed at all /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

I had to laugh when I saw your question. Have you ever heard of (or driven on) "Corridor H"? It was Senator Byrd's gift to West Virginia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.

If they're coming in mid day and leaving at night, when the roads are dead, they don't need bike lanes.

Ha right, because when the roads are empty is the safest time to bike on them. Cars don't take advantage of the empty roads to speed at all /s

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Anonymous wrote:Why not make the bike lanes on parallel roads rather than major arteries full of cars? Oh, that would make too much sense.

Which parallel roads? PLease do tell. Also, you put the bike lanes ON the commercial corridor so people can ride to patronize businesses ON that corridor. That is how all the other cities around the world have done it.

It's interesting that "drive on the parallel roads" means "cut-through traffic", and cut-through traffic is bad because people don't want more cars on the roads where they live...but yet it would be fine for there to be more bikes on those roads? It's almost like cars are unpleasant to be around (noise, exhaust, honking, crashes).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.

If they're coming in mid day and leaving at night, when the roads are dead, they don't need bike lanes.

It is dark out...they need them more than ever. This isn't about the road being congested and having bikes in a different space. It is about having a safe space for bikes and pedestrians, segregated from cars all together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

citation for this (false) claim please.

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Anonymous wrote:You anti-bike people are insane. Why even live in or commute to the city? Go make your life out in the exurbs and leave us alone.

Are you aware that less than 4% of the city population bike commutes? You exist in a very narrow minority.

I am aware that both myself and my children would all commute by bike if there were a safe way to do so. And I live right off Conn Ave.

If you live right off Conn Ave you probably live close to the metro. Or could take the bus.

If you live in Van Ness or south. You realize 1) there are a few of us that live north of there and 2, we want to be able to ride a bike safely to support the businesses in YOUR neighborhood. I support more bus service, but right now, the 20-30 minute headways for the L2 make it undependable for what you are suggesting.

That's cool, but many more people drive than ride cars, so losing the majority of customers for the three of you who bike doesn't make sense.

There isn't anywhere for those cars to park currently so those drivers are not stopping and shopping at those stores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

Exactly. DC has spent billions of dollars on bike lanes.

Not sure about billions but certainly more than $100 million over the past decade.

This is total nonsense. After repeated requests, someone in the other thread strung together a bunch of projects that allocated funding to a wide range of infra, including road maintenance, and sheepishly tried to claim that the allocations were all for bike lanes. It was patently absurd. If you nothing to contribute other than lies and manipulation, please just be quiet.

Bowser's current budget proposal alone has close to $60 million. $100 million over the past decade is neither absurd nor an exaggeration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

I had to laugh when I saw your question. Have you ever heard of (or driven on) "Corridor H"? It was Senator Byrd's gift to West Virginia.

As you've driven on Corridor H, you certainly know it wasn't built for rich people. The logging and coal trucks that use it are big beneficiaries of no longer having to take the slower back roads to bring their payloads to market, so to speak. As envisioned, Corridor H was supposed to connect I-79 to I-81, which is no small (or inexpensive) feat. It was a bigger project than the state needed, but the benefits certainly aren't accruing to a "handful of rich people" as you've suggested.

The only rich people who benefit would be those of us who use it to get to Davis, WV more efficiently. I guess the owners of the trucking companies could be considered rich as well.

In short, comparing Corridor H to the proposed road diet on Connecticut Avenue is like comparing a unicorn to a chimpanzee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

I had to laugh when I saw your question. Have you ever heard of (or driven on) "Corridor H"? It was Senator Byrd's gift to West Virginia.

As you've driven on Corridor H, you certainly know it wasn't built for rich people. The logging and coal trucks that use it are big beneficiaries of no longer having to take the slower back roads to bring their payloads to market, so to speak. As envisioned, Corridor H was supposed to connect I-79 to I-81, which is no small (or inexpensive) feat. It was a bigger project than the state needed, but the benefits certainly aren't accruing to a "handful of rich people" as you've suggested.

The only rich people who benefit would be those of us who use it to get to Davis, WV more efficiently. I guess the owners of the trucking companies could be considered rich as well.

In short, comparing Corridor H to the proposed road diet on Connecticut Avenue is like comparing a unicorn to a chimpanzee.

All those huge West Virginia highways are boondoggles. Senator Byrd bringing the pork home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

DC has the same poverty rate as West Virginia

Is West Virginia planning any boondoggle transportation projects that will only benefit a handful of rich people?

I had to laugh when I saw your question. Have you ever heard of (or driven on) "Corridor H"? It was Senator Byrd's gift to West Virginia.

As you've driven on Corridor H, you certainly know it wasn't built for rich people. The logging and coal trucks that use it are big beneficiaries of no longer having to take the slower back roads to bring their payloads to market, so to speak. As envisioned, Corridor H was supposed to connect I-79 to I-81, which is no small (or inexpensive) feat. It was a bigger project than the state needed, but the benefits certainly aren't accruing to a "handful of rich people" as you've suggested.

The only rich people who benefit would be those of us who use it to get to Davis, WV more efficiently. I guess the owners of the trucking companies could be considered rich as well.

In short, comparing Corridor H to the proposed road diet on Connecticut Avenue is like comparing a unicorn to a chimpanzee.

All those huge West Virginia highways are boondoggles. Senator Byrd bringing the pork home.

But at least West Virginia didn't pay for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is already on a diet now that parking is allowed all day, no rush hour restrictions. That should slow things down the same as bike lanes would.

With the safety argument gone and the transportation argument quite dubious seeing that it is a major public transit corridor there is no rationale at all beyond providing an expensive amenity for a couple dozen of wealthy white people in a city where a lot of basic needs are not being met. This is the kind of thing a city does when it has a growing economy and is flush with cash. That is not the DC of 2023 and thankfully Mayor Bowser and the Council understand that very well.

It is such a trope to suggest this is for several dozen wealthy white people. As it currently sits, there are a lot of blue collar workers who ride bikes and bring them into the backs of the restaruants etc they work in. YOu don't see them because they are commuting to their work midday and are leaving in the dark of night. You have NO idea how people get to and from their jobs.

If they're coming in mid day and leaving at night, when the roads are dead, they don't need bike lanes.

It is dark out...they need them more than ever. This isn't about the road being congested and having bikes in a different space. It is about having a safe space for bikes and pedestrians, segregated from cars all together.

Then make sidewalks for bikes. Don't take up space that is urgently needed for cars to drive on. More people need roads for cars than they do for bikes. That's the reality of how we use the space.